Help: Advise for gear upgrade please

[Staffas]

Originally Posted by Oleg

Using the EP-41 will kill your PED card. Stick to the L weapons, unless you can afford an unlimited SIB weapon, but they are many K. Don't use the Punisher either, get an L weapon for tagging too, and a Bravo for long-range tagging (I generally just use a CB13 or similar for tagging, just a cheap noob gun really).

If you don't like the markup on the HL8, don't use it, simple as that.

The FAPs you are using are terrible for eco. Try a FAP-80 as your main combat FAP, and look at the L Vivo/Hedocs, whatever is appropriate for your skill level (I would guess probably T15 for you).

Your armour's fine. Vigi, as you say, is a possible option for taking on different mobs. For acid mobs 2c are better than 4a, and cheaper. 4a are better for mobs that mix acid and stab/cut/impact (Formicacida for example). Actually I should get some 4a myself, must make a note of that

On the other hand, since you're intending to upgrade to try and beat me in the Universe Wide Hunting Competition, I would suggest you sell all your gear and skills and go and play WoW instead

hehe, many good advise here. I think this upgrade is something that i need to think about some more. I might try the ep41 for a while, if I am not satisfied with it atleast it holds on to its value unless a limited gun.

The 4a is more so I can get more complete plating protection, since I already have 5a 6a 6b there seems to me that there is only a 4a that is missing
always liked complete collections.

and for the upgrade to beat you in the comp, well I am doing fairly well even without the upgrade, so that should not be a problem
Its PM that I am worried about there.

I think i have a fap 80 in storage too, but the 2600 is more fun by some reason, probably since i have gotten used to it, speed and 42hp heal is too nice for me to give it up.

for normal hunting I dont go for the scipulor for example that we did in the event this week, so the 2600 is not used on most mob, more like an emergency fap, while the fap 50 does most of fapping.

Is the unlimited ep41 realy that much worse than the limited ones? even with attachments? I think my mind just got stuck on that I will do ok with the ep41 and that it will be hard to get out of my mind if i not try it. I apreciate the advise, but i might have to try for myself on this one.

[Staffas]

Originally Posted by somon90

Get an unlimited Isis hl6 or hl8

this would realy be an option, just going to call MA and get a sweet ATH first so i can afford one. Dang they are expencive, but I do understand why so its all about saving up for them.

[Oleg]

Originally Posted by Staffas

Is the unlimited ep41 realy that much worse than the limited ones? even with attachments? I think my mind just got stuck on that I will do ok with the ep41 and that it will be hard to get out of my mind if i not try it. I apreciate the advise, but i might have to try for myself on this one.

Yes. Try it if you want but you'll want to change back after about 10 minutes.

[WoenK]

Originally Posted by Staffas

I think i have a fap 80 in storage too, but the 2600 is more fun by some reason, probably since i have gotten used to it, speed and 42hp heal is too nice for me to give it up.

I prefer the 2350, only 24 HP but way faster.
I am around level 11 right now and get full heals most of the time.
never saw a reason for (L) when it comes to healing, they are slower and the skill speed on the unlimited ones is enough for me.
Outside combat there is absolutely nothing that can beat the economy of the T1

[Staffas]

Originally Posted by WoenK

I prefer the 2350, only 24 HP but way faster.
I am around level 11 right now and get full heals most of the time.
never saw a reason for (L) when it comes to healing, they are slower and the skill speed on the unlimited ones is enough for me.
Outside combat there is absolutely nothing that can beat the economy of the T1

I agrea here. I think it is more eco to heal much and fast, might cost alittle extra, but it would be more expecive to run back from the resurect terminal.

I had a T15 and Hedok SK20 (L) earlier, the headock i maxed and the T15 was so slow that i just gave up and gave it back to the auction again.

I realy should try to be more eco between fights with a more eco fap than the fap50, but its still a big step forward from when i used the 2600 all the time.

[Fjolla]

Originally Posted by WoenK

I prefer the 2350, only 24 HP but way faster.
I am around level 11 right now and get full heals most of the time.
never saw a reason for (L) when it comes to healing, they are slower and the skill speed on the unlimited ones is enough for me.
Outside combat there is absolutely nothing that can beat the economy of the T1

There are some really good (L) fap's though.. the UR125 is really awesome. Better heal/sec than EK 2600 and better eco also. However the really good ones require ridiculously high paramedic lvl :-/

[chielsen]

I would stick to the emt 2600 and korss until your levels have increased (level 50+ for ul guns and enough skill to use hedoc 50+).
Emt 2600 heals alot and has nice speed. Healing less with a more eco fap will only make u heal more or die.
Going to ul guns at this level really is a bad move. Not only is it more uneco, it is also less fun. You will miss all the time and do low damage too.
Actually an amp is better on a (L) gun, since the markup is only on the gun, the bigger the damage from the amp, the less markup per damage u will pay.
An amp on a UL gun will suck just as much as the gun, u will miss alot and do low damage.

So you there really is no alternative for p5a/korss/hl6 , unless u buy some UL sib gun.

[WoenK]

Depending on what you hunt, the 2350 can really save you often.
Has 41 uses per minute, 2600 has only 27.
With a fast firing pistol you can heal a bit between shots.
Matter of preference, I like it faster

[Immortal]

Originally Posted by Staffas

EWE EP-41 for normal hunts, I am realy looking for a decent gun to use even for my lvl that is not (L), I realy like (L) weapons but to run and pay markup for a gun for every hunt and sometimes not beeing able to find a hl6 or hl8 at auction either att all or for decent price sometimes makes me do something else than hunting for a while. I also want an unlimited gun so I can calculate my cost easyer. I am too lazy to check the decay on the gun when I cant repair it

If you use ep41, you will lose every hunt. I made the mistake of using ep41 too early. Yes it has a nice kick to it but it's -terrible-. If you are of the mindset " don't give a crap about eco, just want something with some damage", then my suggestion is p5+eamp14. Or imp/mod korss+eamp14 - guarantee that you won't be running to auction with those (p5 last 2kped ammo, imp korss...uhh....well half one last 5kped ammo...).
At low levels(30/30), the difference betweeen p5+eamp14 and ep41+eamp14 is 2 dmg/sec due to the number of misses and reduced average damage. The eco for the ep41 is so terrible at this level, you could pay 300% for any (L) and stilll get better eco

Marber echo/bravo for tagging. I have not decided on which one of the 2 yet, probably will depend on what price I can find them for. Any advise/sugestions here is much apreciated.

Either of these is fine for tagging and has enough range. If you want to get in a lot of shots though. I advise a jzar+2xhunnir on any nonSIB weapon.

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The A105 seems like a nessesary upgrade if I want to change to an unlimited gun. Personally I refuse to buy a105 for such a ridiculous prices. I refused to buy it a +1k too. eamp13 does the same job. Also note that when you put an amp on a nonSIB weapon, the amp eco drops horrifically.

I am using the EMK-2600 and EMK-50 for healing. Starting more and more to get into the eco healing of not always using the 2600. I hunt everything, but trying more and more to go for semi large mobs that can drop fun items.

Skill the SIB faps as much as possible. ur-125 is a great fap even @ level 29 )when i still only have 16 helas /min ). The big mobs get easier and easier - i used eki-2600 a *lot*, mind you . Adj Hedoc-50 is a kick ass fap when you have the skill to use it. There are a few different faps around similar to eki2600 that may suit your play style (such as 2580 2550 2700 2900) but in all reality, they aren't required. You should max the 2600 at lvl 21 I think

I know that the normal sugestion is not to change to unlimited weapons untill you are lvl 65+ (?) but with the crazy markups on the hl8 for example i get close to the same eco wit the EP41 (I think).

See above
hl8@180%, they are similar eco ~ lvl 70, regardless of amp

[Joe_Taxpayer]

from what i see ,, you seem in good shape ,, i dont think you require upgrades at this time .. the new system pays out most often on low maturity mobs ,, stick with your gear and kill youngs ,, just my 2 pecs