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Old 07-06-2008, 05:46   #1
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Skill Selling and Melee vs. Ranged

One of my strategies to help offset costs is to periodically sell skills I gain from hunting. I'm a Level 11 Laser Sniper, but I have discovered melee skills like Shortblades and other secondary melee skills sell for a lot more than laser or BLP. I have been studying a lot of data and prices, and it seems melee and ranged combat economy, at least looking at only weapons, are similar. Is melee somehow more expensive, to the point I'd make more sticking to BLP? Shortblade fighting doesn't seem to boost construction skills like the ranged things do, so maybe I'm off in my calculations. Am I better off training with shortblades, or sticking with BLP?
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Keep in mind markup.
Markup on a Korss is very small because you only decay about 1 PEC per hit, most of the damage is done by ammo burn, so 150% isn't bad.
For melee, I wouldn't go above 105%, because ALL the damage is decay, and therefore has markup.
If you go for unL weapons, then you're going into bad eco unless it is unL SIB.

Also keep in mind, guns can be amped to boost economy, melee can not.
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Keep in mind markup.
Markup on a Korss is very small because you only decay about 1 PEC per hit, most of the damage is done by ammo burn, so 150% isn't bad.
For melee, I wouldn't go above 105%, because ALL the damage is decay, and therefore has markup.
If you go for unL weapons, then you're going into bad eco unless it is unL SIB.

Also keep in mind, guns can be amped to boost economy, melee can not.
Ahh, yeah, that's right. I forgot to factor that in. I also don't know if skill selling would even be enough of a factor to consider heavily.
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It's also fairly safe to say that the majority of hunters use ranged weapons most of the time, meaning the melee skills will be in shorter supply, and cost more.
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It's also fairly safe to say that the majority of hunters use ranged weapons most of the time, meaning the melee skills will be in shorter supply, and cost more.
True, but that would also mean demand would be lower. Bah, I suck at economics.
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I'm disappointed there hasn't been more replies, especially since this is the weekend...

Anyway, I calculated what kind of profit I'd make from selling skills using several weapons types, disregarding all other factors. I don't know how I knew to do this, but, I took the markup of each skil, subtracted the average street markup of ESIs, then multiplied it by the skill contribution to professions (divided by 100, of course, since they seem to be percentages) listed on Entropedia. Here is what I came up with:

Laser Carbine

Hit 46 29 37 68 72 42 46 585 98

Damage 92 47 187 140 (105)

TOTAL: 1,489 (1,594)

Laser Pistol

Hit 44 27 570 31 72 98 72 42 44

Damage 92 47 187 140 (105)

TOTAL: 1,466 (1,571)

BLP Rifle

Hit 46 29 37 68 72 42 46 585 175

Damage 92 47 312 140 (105)

TOTAL: 1,691 (1,796)

BLP Pistol

Hit 44 27 570 31 72 168 72 42 44

Damage 92 47 312 140 (105)

TOTAL: 1,661 (1,766)

Support

Hit 46 29 37 68 72 42 46 3,588 588

Damage 92 37 1,428 126 (105)

TOTAL: 6,199 (6,304)

Shortblades

Hit 45 329 396 950 392 96 30 44 (434)

Damage 150 255 (238) 625 140

TOTAL: 3,452 (4,124)
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i have no idea what u mean by that huge table but at ur current lvls ur not gonna make much selling skills
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Skill Markup (based on Peauction)

Dodge = 12,740.3%
Evade = 6,915.36%

Handgun = 2,010.22%
Rifle = 2,261.96

BLP Weaponry Technology = 1,733.11%
Laser Weaponry Technology = 1,245.23%

The choice is clear. Use BLP rifle to hunt bots, and 100% electric mobs. The value of your skills will far outweigh folks who hunt typical mobs with laser handguns.

Actually, Plasma and Explosives weaponry tech is even more markup, but there are no decent weapons in those categories you could use on a daily basis.

Good luck and happy hoffing.
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I'm disappointed there hasn't been more replies, especially since this is the weekend...
It is unclear where your calcs come from. Make your data simpler to understand, what you have gathered from tests etc so it can be analysed.
Also remember that there is resellers market and real market. Before taking the plunge into thinking a skill sells truly for XXX, take note of the volume of sales and their trend. ALso quote where your figures come from.

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The choice is clear.
Well, you are assuming you can skill dodge at the same cost and speed as evade.
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The choice is clear. Use BLP rifle to hunt bots, and 100% electric mobs. The value of your skills will far outweigh folks who hunt typical mobs with laser handguns.
ML35 v bots isn't gonna give u much dodge
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