just thaught i would show you ....

[Djarro Morgari]

I know it isnt whining, we all have it now, atleast the most of us, thats why im selling my hl6 and thinking of leaving the boat.

But im not the one who is whining like other people , i dont say your whining but there is a fine thin line.

at some point we will all have the chance to be whiners.

If your not comfortable with the losses ......

Afterall, i played this game not having to pay subscription fee, all the sudden, the subscription fee of other games doesnt seem so high anymore.

[ulp]

Originally Posted by MarcusLucius

how much trox u killed with that setup ? 3 ? 5 ?
honestly: with that gun, and on a regen mob like trox mebe try longer runs... 300-600ped .. you cant see a loottrend on 111ped ammo runs

my2pecs

dont mind me asking but what is wrong with a freanD Delta + Beast on troxes ? its fast and it does quite good damage

http://entropedia.info/Info.aspx?chart=Weapon&id=50

as the link says Dmg/sec: 49.1 HP and 44 max damage + 19 damage from the beast
and that is 63 damage on non crits..

http://entropedia.info/Info.aspx?chart=Mob&id=9
an atrox young has 380 hp and provider 590 hp the rest is in between

even if i would do 50 damage / shot i would kill an atrox young in 7,6 shots and make that 10 shots including the misses and regen

and 10.5 pec + 2 pec = 12.5 pec / shot so that is about 125 pec / young trox
and 10 shots takes about 8,95 sec to kill an atrox young

and to answer your question i can kill around 88 atrox youngs with that ammo
but i killed some other maturitys as well so lets say 66 troxes instead

that enough info ?

[Djarro Morgari]

ok it has fine dmg, but are you skilled enough to get to those dmg/pec and dmg/sec, there is nothing wrong with the setup, i envy you that you want to play that way, and are playing that way.

Im stuck to hl6 and in a short time to limited, but, you are stating that the returns are terrible, but you dont do eco, so there is always that ecxuse of "your not doing it eco enough" , i know the loot is toobad for what they cost, but if you are not eco, skills for the delta or limited, you would even lose money in the past, not even speaking about these days.

I see it like this, you just lose evrything before you get a hof, to break even.

It could be me, but im eco as hell, and even i dont breakeven in 2 week time, not even once.

So i know what you mean, but i would go eco first and then try to post again.

[Moonbiter]

Originally Posted by ulp

dont mind me asking but what is wrong with a freanD Delta + Beast on troxes ? its fast and it does quite good damage

http://entropedia.info/Info.aspx?chart=Weapon&id=50

as the link says Dmg/sec: 49.1 HP and 44 max damage + 19 damage from the beast
and that is 63 damage on non crits..

http://entropedia.info/Info.aspx?chart=Mob&id=9
an atrox young has 380 hp and provider 590 hp the rest is in between

even if i would do 50 damage / shot i would kill an atrox young in 7,6 shots and make that 10 shots including the misses and regen

and 10.5 pec + 2 pec = 12.5 pec / shot so that is about 125 pec / young trox
and 10 shots takes about 8,95 sec to kill an atrox young

and to answer your question i can kill around 88 atrox youngs with that ammo
but i killed some other maturitys as well so lets say 66 troxes instead

that enough info ?

Wake up. Trox young has around 900hp, and other maturities even more. Info on entropedia is outdated, probably after the crash when current information was lost.

And as others said already, 111peds of ammo on trox (or any similar hp mob) is nothing. I can easily go out with Apis+dante and 1.2k ammo, and not get a single global in first 600 peds, and then a global every 5 minutes. As a rule of a thumb, the more hp mob has, the longer your runs (or turnover) should be.

It's very much like theory of probabilities and tossing a coin. Thoeretically heads & tails have an equal chance to show up, that is 50/50. However, practically, you have to toss a coin for many times, to get close to a theoretical prediction. And, the smaller the number of tosses is, the larger is the chance that you will get very skewed results.

Or, to give yet another example... If we have to integrate f(x)=sin(x) curve, and use only one rectangular for that, our result will be very unaccurate. Our accuracy grows with each rectangular added, the more the better. And, the final formula uses infinite number of rectangulars and limit concept.

And a on a final note, Delta+beast is really not eco setup, unless you're silent uber with 75/75 hit/dmg, but it's your choice of course.