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Old 09-18-2006, 01:23   #11
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I would have to agree with the general concensus here. Chipping unless you have a large budget is a waste. Spend those 950 PED on a P2a or P3a which should give you a good HA/CHA at your skill level. I am at 2170 rifle and 2.5k LWT right now with ~360 HG and I max out a P2a on everything except shots per second and that is only one short of max. Tha P3a gives me about 9.1/9.6 HA/CHA and is at 44 of 47 SPM but also a bit short on the range. Using (L) weapons seems to be the fastest way to raise skills lately and since through use you gain in all skills not just one it is probably more economical too.

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well im using a p3a at the moment. i was using a p2a and whilst its speed meant it was fine for killing what i hunt, it decayed about 7 ped per 3k ammo. i upgraded when i near maxed it out but the p3a has the same decay. the reason i want to chip is because on a 3k ammo hunt i get about 30 peds of decay (because the gun is so slow), plus the 30 peds of ammo again, meaning 3k ammo needs 60 peds of loot. and thats excluding the fact the gun still decays 7 peds and needs replacing about once every 3 days.

so i want to chip to use a less decaying, quicker killing gun.

i hope that makes sense
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I have 2500+ in both rifle and hg and the only pistol for me is the p5a but it cost to much and then I have 9.7HA on this one, so this is not an option for me.
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there is a much, much simpler way of achieving what you want:

buy an a105 amp (500ped)
buy a korss h400 min 50tt (100ped min)
buy 2 LWT chips (280ped)

spend the rest on ammo.

there you have an 8 burn HG; with at minimum 5.0HA; with that HA reaching 10.0 in no time.

there is no way; note, absolutely no way, that you'll either get up to 5.0 HA naturally or chipping; with 950 ped apart from:

with an m2100 / breer pistols its possible, but the former will be dreadfully slow and the latter will be costly and slow.

get a korss, and skills will go fast up until approx capable laser pistoleer prof standing (thats 2k average, or 2.0 HA on normal pistols).

then, and only then, use any extra profit to buy skill chips and raise that HA.

To raise HA, buy LWT 1st (up until ~4k, then any extra chips give so little even at the low price of LWT its easier to skill it up (and usually cheaper)).

then buy HG, which is more expensive but does give the most bonus to HA. these chips are worth buying up until 5-6k.

then buy aim, weapons handling, marksmanship up until 3-4k.

this should give you a nice 4.5-5.0 HA.

to raise your min dmg (very important to remember that it raises seperately to HA when chipping - you dont want 6.0HA and 28% min dmg) - buy

LWT 1st - up until 4-4.5k. ditto as above for reasons.

Anatomy 2nd - this is SO cheap for the benefit that its so worth it. it helps not only ranged, but melee dmg, and fap heals, AND taming, AND scanning. a very useful cheap skill.

then finally (if you have the cash) IRD and RDA. These two are very expensive (especially IRD) and not as useful. anything above 3k for IRD is a waste of cash and anything above 4k for RDA is a waste also.

try and aim for 36.5% min dmg before you switch from korss+skillchips - this will unlock wounding for you and then you will see a major difference in your min dmg and min dmg gains. it will move fast up to around 40%, then UBER slow until killstrike at 45%, where it maintains its slowness however relatively is fast to get to 50% (relative to HA gains).

after all that, you should use any spare profits to chip athletics (helps health, and mob evasion), alertness (helps mob evasion) and evade (obvious..)

these 3 will help you cut armour costs, VERY usefull when you have a full armour set protecting 20+ dmg in one area (say impact) as that will cost you a lot without evade.

try and chip athletics and alertness up to 4-5k (can be costly) and evade only up to 3k (will be costly).

this will mean that while you have less evade than normal natural skilling, it will be cheaper and STILL unlock avoidance. then you can work on quickness and intuition on your own... very costly to chip for them, but prolly take you 2 years normal hunting every day to get them naturally.

once evade is done, work on courage, perception, and dexterity (also serendipity once unlocked) for health (C+S) and HA (P+D).

finally you wanna work on your fap skills, aim for capable fapper (around 2.5k first aid, 5k anatomy, and 1.5k diagnosis). this will give you medicine.

then you can work on treatment and doctor yourself :p again very costly to skillchip for those.

GLHF its a long road, but you should be able to make pretty sweet profits on korss if you hunt right.
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oh, and a little tip to maintain a rounded avatar - i'd recommend using TT powerfist and shortblade up to 2k skill in each, and TT longblade up to 1k. then switch to a katsuichi honour/valour/determination to get LB up as far as needed for both Melee Damage Assessment and Martial Arts.

These are just two simple unlocks - but in spending time getting them, you will raise melee combat up to about 2.5-3k, which gives loads of health.

after that, i'd recommend a good course of scanning and focus charging to get 4 more unlocks (xenob at great scanner, scientist at marvelous) (power catalyst at trained mindtropian, ethereal soul language at [unknown] mintropian).
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a third point

i think i need to make this clear: skilling up to 2k is best done naturally.

yes; it does only take 1 chip or so, but that could be up to 4k's worth of chips for all skills.

As a rough guide:

HG, Rifle, LB, SB, PF, Club, Whip = 2000
General Skills = 1000-1500 (most will reach this easy when getting 2k in the above)
Evade, FA = 1000 preferably, but just make sure you get enough of these while getting other skills
Anatomy / LWT = These are fine to chip at any time, however, it is still best to do these naturally up to 2k - but its very close to the same price so you might want to build these up with chips first, then allow their HA/Dmg benefits to make skilling the others easier.
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wow nice posts, +rep.

hmm sounds like a lot. i certainly wont be chipping all that lot, just the initial 3 that you mentioned that fit my budget (thanks for that).
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IMO to get 5HA on guns without SIB You shall spend about 15-25K peds on skils
inetsed consider to buy one HG chip and start using some limited weapons

i would also suggest evade -> it can really decrease decay of armour and fap
kors+a105 seems to be greatest choice
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just wondering which will have a greater effect:

2 or 3 LWT chips or 1 HG chip (bearing in mind HG will jump from 600-1900 and LWT only jumps 700 on chip 1)

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anyone know?
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