Get skills and hunt big mobs!

[Optima]

Sorry for the sarcasm of the title but i got so severly pissed last night i thought id make a little post on it today This is not to be seen as "whining" although im sure it will be, but merely as a little "info" as to how bad a hunt you can actually have in PE regardless of equipment, teamsize, length of hunt and skills...

AoW set out for a little team expedition last night to CND, we went to hunt some Daspletors hoping for some shits and giggles and a few hofs/globals but no we didnt expect to profit (last part is kinda important when it comes to this story)

Most people that hunt big mobs on a regular basis in PE knows your utterly f*cked unless you get a few good loots along the way, and since Daspletors is about as extreme as it gets we went up 5 people with an ehrm "descent" total skillcount, using modmercs, impMkII's, doaRJ, jungles etc to get a good killspeed. I.e. not really undermanned or underpowered or with shit for skills (imo atleast...) We spent approx 7-7.5 hours hunting them (started around 17 hours and finished around midnight ingame ) Spending a bit over 10000ped ammo (+ amps etc) in total. Basically what id call a "proper" hunt even for as big a mob as this

End result? Well we lost about 1k peds per person in average, we got a few small globals along the way (5 or 6 i think between 140-3XX) and ended up about "1.000.000 short on inspiration" to do another hunt like that anytime soon like a teammember said.

Like i said we didnt expect to profit on the hunt, has little to do with that (need a huge hof for that on a mob like this usually atleast), we did a similar hunt on falx a few days ago, lost 150peds per person or so but had a few descent loots and alot of fun which was just fine. I dont know if people know "what im getting @" but this just seemed so over the top for me i felt like posting it. We "did it how it was supposed to be done", and still lost so badly its silly :p

I guess what gets to me the most was the lack of good loots over all... To make it even more extreme i know that there was 2-3 more teams up there last night and still no HOFs on dasp during the whole time we were hunting. Meaning that if you "choose the wrong day" it doesnt matter wtf you do you will loose yer ass off and that annoys me, since this is supposedly a "skillbased game", not a "timebased" one (as in a whole day-timebased if you get me)

[The Ripper]

that does seem a lil extreme tbh

it seems as a few ppl have been blasting away at those mobs lately.

the way i look at skills is that it allows you to hunt bigger mobs which have a bigger chance of HoFing than say an exo etc but never guarantee profit etc :P (i know you didnt)

but i must admit i have been getting increasingly annoyed at the many many hofs and globals lately that are on the 'lower' mobs... i think as in mining it takes a certain amount of skills and or eqpt to even have a chance of finding the decent ores and enmatters , (I personally also think the amount a lower skiled player can get should be limited i.e not an ath)

I think that should be applied for hunting and crafting too, ie mobs like exo daikiba etc etc should not be able to HoF for above 10k (i have seen it in the past)

would mean then that all those hard hours spent skilling to try and work your way up to those kinds of mobs would seem to have a reward... when at the moment it seems like the best way to go is to grab yourself a nice cheap weapon and go kill argo's for the rest of your life..

Rip

[Max Proteon]

EU it is a dynamic game, so if AoW and the other teams didn't get "the reward" by now, I guess an ATH is very close

P.S. I won't kiss a fish with wings

Originally Posted by Optima

Sorry for the sarcasm of the title but i got so severly pissed last night i thought id make a little post on it today This is not to be seen as "whining" although im sure it will be, but merely as a little "info" as to how bad a hunt you can actually have in PE regardless of equipment, teamsize, length of hunt and skills...

AoW set out for a little team expedition last night to CND, we went to hunt some Daspletors hoping for some shits and giggles and a few hofs/globals but no we didnt expect to profit (last part is kinda important when it comes to this story)

Most people that hunt big mobs on a regular basis in PE knows your utterly f*cked unless you get a few good loots along the way, and since Daspletors is about as extreme as it gets we went up 5 people with an ehrm "descent" total skillcount, using modmercs, impMkII's, doaRJ, jungles etc to get a good killspeed. I.e. not really undermanned or underpowered or with shit for skills (imo atleast...) We spent approx 7-7.5 hours hunting them (started around 17 hours and finished around midnight ingame ) Spending a bit over 10000ped ammo (+ amps etc) in total. Basically what id call a "proper" hunt even for as big a mob as this

End result? Well we lost about 1k peds per person in average, we got a few small globals along the way (5 or 6 i think between 140-3XX) and ended up about "1.000.000 short on inspiration" to do another hunt like that anytime soon like a teammember said.

Like i said we didnt expect to profit on the hunt, has little to do with that (need a huge hof for that on a mob like this usually atleast), we did a similar hunt on falx a few days ago, lost 150peds per person or so but had a few descent loots and alot of fun which was just fine. I dont know if people know "what im getting @" but this just seemed so over the top for me i felt like posting it. We "did it how it was supposed to be done", and still lost so badly its silly :p

I guess what gets to me the most was the lack of good loots over all... To make it even more extreme i know that there was 2-3 more teams up there last night and still no HOFs on dasp during the whole time we were hunting. Meaning that if you "choose the wrong day" it doesnt matter wtf you do you will loose yer ass off and that annoys me, since this is supposedly a "skillbased game", not a "timebased" one (as in a whole day-timebased if you get me)

[Etopia]

Som have to loss to alow other to win....
Sadly the balance between loss and win is way large.
Opti , you know as me (since you was allready old player when i started mate) , more the time go , more the general loot go down , more the big loot go up.
Need a lot of people to lost a lot of ped to pay for those ATH and Uber we see all day long.
The player base is too low to fill up those big hof so the loot have to be ever lower.

And for those that will come with the ads myth , it will take at least 1 month before Massive pay as much as what optima loss in 1 day...

[jdegre]

Originally Posted by Optima

(...) we went up 5 people (...) Spending a bit over 10000ped ammo (+ amps etc) in total. Basically what id call a "proper" hunt even for as big a mob as this

End result? Well we lost about 1k peds per person in average, (...)

From these numbers, it seems that your average loot return was around 60% (average expense of 2.2-2.3k per person, and 1k lost per person).

I think that this is not uncommon, kind of the expected return when a mob is looting poorly.

/jdegre.

[Leafren]

Same for our team Optima

[Optima]

Originally Posted by jdegre

From these numbers, it seems that your average loot return was around 60% (average expense of 2.2-2.3k per person, and 1k lost per person).

I think that this is not uncommon, kind of the expected return when a mob is looting poorly.

/jdegre.

Thats kinda my point... How the hell can we "accept this as a normal run" considering the facts of a hunt like that? And yes i know "some need to loose" for the big ones to happen, and yes i know playerbase is small compared to the size of the superubers we see from the "big" mobs. Again thats my point... Why get skills to hunt the big stuff ingame if you "basically cant win" (atleast not in the long run) unless you get the superuber? Again im stressing that im not pissed about loosing the 1k peds. Im aware of the risks with big mobs ive hunted big mobs 90% of my time ingame (most that know me will testify to that lol) and ive lost more 50-60% on big stuff before and a helluvalot more than 1k in a day when ive had shitty luck. Reason for this post is the system itself im getting more and more tired of... Atm with close to 300k skills, modmerc, modfap and 220ish hps... only "stuff" i can hunt without a gigantic loss (unless i get lucky...) is baby mobs... how is that a skillbased game?...

[F1r3]

Sucks to have lost 1k each (so total of 5k?) but look at it on the bright side, you have made one person slightly richer by paying for 1/7th of his loot (bah btw:P)

[danceofdeath]

Ive been playing a little over a year now... I use to play an dplay changing areas hoping for the tide of loot to change, sometimes it did and sometimes it did not... Like you stated its time based the right day at the right moment. So now I no longer do this... I log in say my hellos joke around with my friends go out and try a few shots a few bombs if I do not see a return of 75% or better right away in like 1 hours time I log see ya the next day was fun.... Anything less than 75% loss in my eyes is unacceptable for the amount it takes to play... I miss the old days. And I never really understood why people complained back then they were making skill had to loose some peds, now that things have gotten way out of hand as far as ped loss now theres more complaining than anything... In some ways I dont really blam MA for changing the loot, maybe they are trying to make people reallize just how blessed they were before when you were able to almost break even and still have countless hours of fun and skill gain of off 10-20 bucks a month, now its more like 50-300 per month or more depending on play style....

[Nea]

sorry for that Optima, but I guess it is what EU is nowadays. For me it has turned into a uber expensive chat room, where everything costs too much I can afford.

That is why I have been spending more time in *******, other real life universe game, at least I can afford nice things there.