The efficiency of scopes/lasers - Statistics/Discussion

[burnsey]

Originally Posted by Doer

There are about 5 billion extraneous threads about this same topic running rampant in the forum right now, so i guess it's time to bump this one (which actually has hard data rather than testimonials).

One thing that i think is new to this thread that was pointed out by The Nightbird is that the old attachment description explicitly states that it increases the chance of hitting the target.

Q.E.D.

It also says it is for energy weapons

(Lasers sights were ingame before blp)

[Witte]

To contunue from the other thread:

I made a little tool that records damage you do. You can download it here: http://www.entropedia.info/EUOCR.rar.

Some notes:

*Only works when EU is in Windows 2k compatibility mode

*Only tested on 1024x768, although it should work on other reslutions too

*Only works in Fullscreen mode (stay fullscreen, else the program will get confused).

*It is fully on your own risk, so only download it when you trust me, and dont care your computer can crash etc.


I did a first testrun using the tool (mainly to test the tool):

Weapon: LR41+A105, no attachments, all maxed

The amp decayed 953.42 pec which equals 386 shots exactly.
The tool recorded 346 shots. I counted about 4 shots due to bad aim. So hitrate is:

(350/386)*100%= 90.7%

Avarage damage = 63.34. Expected was 64.5


The results are not very usefull, but at least it shows that that tool seems to work

[Recoda]

I just gave it a try in both windowed mode and in fullscreen mode. It seems like it only captures the form where I enter my chat-messages, and not the actual chat-window.

I don't know what it captures when I launch it in fullscreen mode however, as I can't see the window then. I suppose it would start working if you managed to support it for windowed-mode as well however?

Edit... I just forgot to run EU in Win 2000 compatibility mode.

Originally Posted by Witte

To contunue from the other thread:

I made a little tool that records damage you do. You can download it here: http://www.entropedia.info/EUOCR.rar.

Some notes:

*Only works when EU is in Windows 2k compatibility mode

*Only tested on 1024x768, although it should work on other reslutions too

*Only works in Fullscreen mode (stay fullscreen, else the program will get confused).

*It is fully on your own risk, so only download it when you trust me, and dont care your computer can crash etc.


I did a first testrun using the tool (mainly to test the tool):

Weapon: LR41+A105, no attachments, all maxed

The amp decayed 953.42 pec which equals 386 shots exactly.
The tool recorded 346 shots. I counted about 4 shots due to bad aim. So hitrate is:

(350/386)*100%= 90.7%

Avarage damage = 63.34. Expected was 64.5


The results are not very usefull, but at least it shows that that tool seems to work

[Witte]

Originally Posted by Recoda

I just gave it a try in both windowed mode and in fullscreen mode. It seems like it only captures the form where I enter my chat-messages, and not the actual chat-window.

I don't know what it captures when I launch it in fullscreen mode however, as I can't see the window then. I suppose it would start working if you managed to support it for windowed-mode as well however?

I'd love to try it out, so I hope you'll be able to fix this.

It monitors the chat where it would be when running in fullscreen. To determine the position I take the resulution minus an offset. Although I am not sure the pixels scale 1:1 when resolution is changed. If not it would only work in 1024x768

[Recoda]

I tried to run it in 1024x768. I also tested to run it using both 16bit as well as 32bit, as I had a simular program earlier which was unable to read the numbers when the game was ran in 16bit.

The logs are always the same, zero hits. So, I'm not really sure what's wrong. Would it be possible to make a modified version of the program which captured a screenshot and saved it to the harddrive a few seconds after pressing start? Then I guess you would be able to see if there's any difference between the pictures from my computer (Colours, position, etc), even if I don't think that the position should be wrong.

Edit... I just forgot to run EU in Win 2000 compatibility mode.

Originally Posted by Witte

It monitors the chat where it would be when running in fullscreen. To determine the position I take the resulution minus an offset. Although I am not sure the pixels scale 1:1 when resolution is changed. If not it would only work in 1024x768

[Witte]

Originally Posted by Recoda

I tried to run it in 1024x768. I also tested to run it using both 16bit as well as 32bit, as I had a simular program earlier which was unable to read the numbers when the game was ran in 16bit.

The logs are always the same, zero hits. So, I'm not really sure what's wrong. Would it be possible to make a modified version of the program which captured a screenshot and saved it to the harddrive a few seconds after pressing start? Then I guess you would be able to see if there's any difference between the pictures from my computer (Colours, position, etc), even if I don't think that the position should be wrong.

Are you sure you run EU in win2k compatibility mode? You should have sharp edges on the text else it wont work. You can send me a screenshot so i can see whats wrong.

[Recoda]

Ahh, I guess I was to much in a hurry to try it out that I forgot about your notes.

It seems to be working now however, and the logs are looking great. Thanks for making this, and thanks for helping me out. + Rep for it!

Originally Posted by Witte

Are you sure you run EU in win2k compatibility mode? You should have sharp edges on the text else it wont work. You can send me a screenshot so i can see whats wrong.

[-=rAndom=-]

Originally Posted by Witte

That sounds like a bug to me. If you can specificly state when that happens (what chat message), I can fix it. PS, like suggested before, it might be an idea to continue discussion in this thread: The efficiency of scopes/lasers - Statistics/Discussion

it seems on of false hits is when mob inflicts crit on avatar (but in first log file I've ~770 hits while I shooted ~500-600 and those troxes don't crited me 170 times, so something is fishy, maybe normal chat ? as as far as I can tell you don't care for text color ?), altho value isn't correct (which isn't surprising with your method of parsing.

[Witte]

Originally Posted by -=rAndom=-

it seems on of false hits is when mob inflicts crit on avatar (but in first log file I've ~770 hits while I shooted ~500-600 and those troxes don't crited me 170 times, so something is fishy, maybe normal chat ? as as far as I can tell you don't care for text color ?), altho value isn't correct (which isn't surprising with your method of parsing.

Yes I realized a crit hit from a mob results in a fault, it start with exactly the same text as then you do a CH . About the extra entries, do you alt-tab in the meanwhile? If so, that might well be the cause, I had the same. I will take a look if I can make it less sensitive too that.

[mjukis]

plus rep for a great program, and it works great in windowed mode as well. you just have to position the screen in the lower left corner. make sure it's exactly on the pixel though