Question: How does LA tax work?

[Jimmy B]

I read a post by a land owner a long time ago that suggested that a hunter will pay tax on any mob killed that spawned in the land area. In other words, dragging it out of the LA and killing it does not work as a sneaky method of tax evasion.

However, just read this:

Originally Posted by MrTiddles

Take your global in mining or hunting, what mob you hunt is up to you! If you manage to lure Sumimas in over the border and global on one of them, it is still a global. Just make sure the possition is visible in the screenshot.

Made me wonder, as the other day on a Scip hunt I was killing one Scipulor when another spawned on me. Two Scips is a mega-decay-fap-fest for me and didn't feel like suiciding so I pegged it into Star's nearby deserted LA, and dropped a couple of decoys until I'd escaped their aggro. Then I killed each one in turn, in Star's LA.

I had assumed that as they didn't spawn in the LA, I wouldn't pay any tax. But MrTiddles' comment above suggests otherwise. So did I give Star 10% of my Scips or not?

[Avery]

I believe it's where the mob spawns; but there's also a chance that it's where it's killed.

Definitely one of the two

[DeadeX]

I believe it's where the mob is killed, maybe you should've made a poll

[CeePee]

MA has said themselves, that you only get taxes from the DNA that your LA has

I was about to notice MrTiddles about that they don't get the tax..
(forgot..)

[Jimmy B]

Originally Posted by DeadeX

I believe it's where the mob is killed, maybe you should've made a poll

A poll would be meaningless. I'm looking for the actual answer from someone who knows it, not a community guess as to the answer

Originally Posted by CeePee

MA has said themselves, that you only get taxes from the DNA that your LA has

I was about to notice MrTiddles about that they don't get the tax..
(forgot..)

Interesting - do you have a link to a quote? Also, does this mean LA's that have indigenous non-DNA mobs (eg. hiryuus that spawn in some of the Wolverine land areas but aren't DNAs) do not get tax from those mobs?

[CeePee]

I'm sorry but I don't have a slightest clue where I read that tax thing, but I'm quite sure that it was like that..

[A-Bomb]

Yeah ive seen that quote as well, about only the DNAs that spawned the mob are taxed.

And if you think about it, it makes sense too.

[Gazza]

Don't know the answer to this one, but I do know that mobs dragged into an LA during an event score points in that system. I've never tried to pull one outside the borders during an event... That seems to imply, given any reuse of coding, that you will have paid tax I'm afraid.

[Deathifier]

Hi,
Long ago MindArk told me that the tax was applied if the creature spawned in your Land Area.

I took this to mean any creature spawning on a Land Area, wild or from DNA, will generate tax. The fact that I get income from SEG proves that this is true.

Of course now that we know events let you score mobs on creatures you dragged in, it is possible that there is a bug in the system.

It is also possible that they are two systems, tracking different things (on spawn, and on kill). Certainly it would be trivial to flag a creature when it spawns on an LA, and also trivial to check this flag when a creature dies in an event.

However since events can occur outside of land areas (and thus on untaxed land, meaning it is not flagged on spawn), the event system may just check if it died in the event areas borders instead.

Bye,
Deathifier

[Oleg]

Originally Posted by Gazza

Don't know the answer to this one, but I do know that mobs dragged into an LA during an event score points in that system. I've never tried to pull one outside the borders during an event... That seems to imply, given any reuse of coding, that you will have paid tax I'm afraid.

The event system and the tax system are separate things. If you loot a mob outside of the event zone, you won't get points for it, even it it was spawned in the zone. However the LA will receive tax for it. Neither do you score points for mining, and the owner gets tax for that too.

From what I remember when this has been discussed before, landowners don't get tax from any mob not spawned from their own DNA.

That's why my events generally include a rule like this one:

Originally Posted by Oleg

6. Globals must be scored within the boundaries of Outback Areas 1 or 21 and must be on creatures native to the lands (i.e. Neconu, Formicacida and Equus).