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Old 03-24-2008, 17:40   #21
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Originally Posted by Nexia;1264882BTW, the LAs are only in the soc's possession for 6 months. They pay for the fertilizer and maintenance of the LA, it's not only income.

why would they fight for this land area to only have it 6months then ???
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Besides, this is just another thread where someone complains 'ubers' get more of something (chance on getting land, chance on winning a competition, ...) compared to lesser skilled/geared or lucky people.

Many people seem to overlook they are revolting against what makes EU great for them in the first place. I imagine many of those people want to get better in EU both in gear and skills. Why? Because it comes with higher chances of doing good in EU. So complaining 'ubers' do better, and advocating MA should limit their capabilities, is asking for MA to take one of the greatest motivations (if not the only for many) for playing this game away.

I'm shooting myself in my feet here (ok my knees too probably), but what you should be complaining about is that the huge gap between a number of (old time) players and the rest of the community skillwise is unbridgeble now unless you want to spend a huge amount of money on chips. To get to the skill/hp level some people are at merely by playing, can't be done in a satisfactory time period even if you play 8+ hours a day. In my opinion MA did a great effort to adress this issue by introducing the powerful (L) weapons in my opinion though.

Complaining 'ubers' are better is ridiculous. Complaining it's impossible to become an 'uber' without buying yourself into it, and revolting against it, is a cause I fully support.
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I have better proposition: each society should get one LA for free from MA. Would it be ok then?
No, there should be no cap on how many lands one soc can have. There is already such cap. The soc has to stay for 4 hours at the marker to gain the land. Better check how many members top 10 societies each have. And ask yourself: can such society get one then more land at a time? They usually can't afford sending many members to attack another land if their own is attacked. Even if they are not attacked, they can send away, 1-2 own members and allies. They can attack some other land with full power only after they secure and get one land. If u don't want ubers to get more than one land, there is one simple solution u can use. Get few less skilled societies and give those ubers something to remember if u want. U can even merge them into one society and try to get the land for urself. Not very possible, I agree, but it is possible to prevent top 10 from getting more than one land. And it doesn't require uber skills and uber gear. If u have enough ppl with L weapons, u can really do something about this situation if you don't like it. And it doesn't require thousands of $ at all.
I've been there at cK land (first they took) and I've seen Hungarian Trox Killers attacking the marker. Every 5 minutes, quite masochistic have to say, but there were only 5-10 of them. I hope they had at least some fun with dying...
In EU, if you do not like something, the best you can do is to adapt and find a solution. There is no possibility to please all players. And MA will do nothing to fulfill your wish of one LA per uber soc only.
There will be next LG within 6 months. You have lots of time to prepare for that m8.
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Originally Posted by Nexia;1264882BTW, the LAs are only in the soc's possession for 6 months. They pay for the fertilizer and maintenance of the LA, it's not only income.

why would they fight for this land area to only have it 6months then ???
Because its FUN. You werent there and know nothing of what you talk about, many mid lvl players took part and the main factor in claiming 2 LA's in one session is endurance!
Do you have any idea how tiring it is battling from 18.00 to 7.00? and thats not counting the 2 hrs previous to that securing ur 1st claim.... 2 yrs ago i watched all this happen from your position. Instead of whining i did something about it, and LG was everything i hoped it would be times 10!!
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okay first of all , please stop posting such big things my eyes hurt and second how can u say they worked hard for this , buying 300k worth of skills isant really working hard for it , yeah they might of worked hard to earn the cash but not in game did they put in the hard yards
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Do you even know how many peds were spent? I doubt that LG is "profitable" because there are so many rich players these days that don`t mind shooting out many thousands peds.

For example AOW in the final stage now has 30 members. Let`s say that their lands runs nicely and every day someone hunts or mines there. Let`s say that average 1k peds are looted every days (and i think it is quite a good estimation unless some kind of madness starts like those times when "everyone" was hunting fungoids). 4% tax is 40 peds, that is like 1.3 ped for a person - wow nice. 6 months is about 183 days that comes to 240 peds for a person. Indeed nice - that is like 311 python rockets not counting markup or 2 shots with Star Mercury Anti-materiel rifle. That is for 1 land, ok multiplie by 2 and you get results from final stage which was so long that people definetly used A LOT more peds.


Ok, those numbers are just a speculation but still.

Don't forget the Reward(s) they probably promised to the support Socs.
I did not look at all LG of all Lands but I saw at least one winning Society who was support by 3 divisions of the same mother Soc and at least 2 other Socs.
And because of this, they had no competition at all. It was totally imposible to approach the Claim Marker.

If you ask my oppinion, NBK and their divisions could have kick the Shaolins out of the LA-12 with fingers in the nose. I saw more NBK than Shaolin there.

But because of the loyalty of NBK Socs, Shaolin got the Land from the start and never lose it.
Hard work uH? Mmm, maybe, I don't know.

Anyway, I just don't know why I talk about it. I don't think I will ever be able to fight in this kind of battle even if there is no support Socs to cover the "Leaders" and my words are a little bit off-topic.
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okay first of all , please stop posting such big things my eyes hurt and second how can u say they worked hard for this , buying 300k worth of skills isant really working hard for it , yeah they might of worked hard to earn the cash but not in game did they put in the hard yards
Please don't comment on stuff you don't know or can't prove.
too many people do it and create false information.

In the 5-6 societys that got land most if not every single player in those society has played 2-4 years+
Sure 1-2 societys have bought aload of skills or a couple members in the society boguht skills but The majority have work hard for it more than you can imagine.
Don't just assume all the people in top 10 chip its an insult to the ones that dont. Grinding out is hard work ^^
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Just for my own curiosity, aren't you like 14 years old, dylan? I know it has nothing to do with the topic. I'm just trying to understand the mindset you're coming from.
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i started playing 4 years ago and i know what imm talking about champ. i started fromm the bottom and very very very slowly worked my way up. unlikd most of them who deposited huge sums of money
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Just for my own curiosity, aren't you like 14 years old, dylan? I know it has nothing to do with the topic. I'm just trying to understand the mindset you're coming from.
yes im a young age , ill be 16 this year . started when i was 11 turning 12 or around 12ish age
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