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Old 06-09-2008, 09:19   #91
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the cashcards are not here because of:
  • finding a partner
  • negotiating
  • working on the graphics for the card (approx 1 year so far)
  • the dog ate the application form

yet ppl still cling to the hope that the cards may arrive one day, that this is what ma have said and just a mix up..... the idea that MA are trying to limit withdrawls in times of shit vu's is not even entertained.

sneaky, unethical, imoral and possible bordering on the illegal

i wouldnt be a heavy card user, but it bugs me that the whole game is marketed and sold with the cashcard feature. the emphasis is that this is a rce game where u can easily deposit and withdraw.... i guess the marketing is 50% correct depositing is easy roflmao

many ppl make good points here, we dont need the cashcard... we need to withdraw.. and withdraw fast
a payment takes approx 2-3 days... its the other 87-88 for MA to proccess that pisses me off!!!!
http://www.entropiauniverse.com/en/rich/5671.html

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One of the many unique aspects of the Entropia Universe is the ability to convert your virtual earnings into real-life funds. There are currently two withdrawal methods available:
  • Entropia Universe Cash Card
  • Bank Withdrawal
Regardless of choosing a regular bank withdrawal or the new Entropia Universe Cash Card system, all withdrawal orders must be submitted from the 'EU TRANSFER CENTER' within the Entropia Universe.
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Why does every advertise about EU have to contain lyes, isnt there anything good about EU that are actually true, that you can advertise about??
Because Project Entropia/Entropia Universe was based on lies and false advertisement from first day and they start collapsing on all the lies and false promises they can't achive.
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the cashcards are not here because of:
  • finding a partner
  • negotiating
  • working on the graphics for the card (approx 1 year so far)
  • the dog ate the application form

yet ppl still cling to the hope that the cards may arrive one day, that this is what ma have said and just a mix up..... the idea that MA are trying to limit withdrawls in times of shit vu's is not even entertained.

sneaky, unethical, imoral and possible bordering on the illegal

i wouldnt be a heavy card user, but it bugs me that the whole game is marketed and sold with the cashcard feature. the emphasis is that this is a rce game where u can easily deposit and withdraw.... i guess the marketing is 50% correct depositing is easy roflmao

many ppl make good points here, we dont need the cashcard... we need to withdraw.. and withdraw fast
a payment takes approx 2-3 days... its the other 87-88 for MA to proccess that pisses me off!!!!
Maybe some of us don't need the cashcard, but isn't it possible that some people would find one invaluable ..especially if (as MA often have said recently) many people are supposedly going to be working inside EU full time ?
Could you run any type of business if you couldn't get at your funds in a reasonable timeframe? More to the point, how easy is it to transfer funds from EU to a bank in just about any country worldwide...China being an obvious example coming soon?

No doubt about it, the cards would be welcomed much more than any withdrawal system boost. Cheaper and more convenient (hopefully) and the simplest solution is usually the right one after all.

They certainly should be mentioned as a product of the future, not an existing one...after all MA aren't advertising CE2 yet and it's going to be here long before the plastic ever will be isn't it?

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Ex cash card holder. Have been playing for 3 years. Have successfully withdrawn in the past, even thought it takes a while.

So why have I now been waiting 1 month 5 days for a withdrawal?

It's not my problem MA seem unable to get their act together and sort out this cash card fiasco. Why am I punished for their incompetence?

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I'm wondering... here in Germany, we have a false advertising law ... companies can be sued if their products do not deliver what they are advertising... IANAL but I believe MA is standing on very slippery ground legally here.

Can anyone enlighten us about Swedish false advertising law?

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I suppose Sweden has the same advertising laws as all other countries. But even without the slightest knowledge in law, I can say for certain that a slightly outdated web page wont cause any million dollar fines...

And that's not why I bumped this thread... I don't want MA to get sued. I just want the damn cash card, and perhaps a comment by some MA official.
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I suppose Sweden has the same advertising laws as all other countries. But even without the slightest knowledge in law, I can say for certain that a slightly outdated web page wont cause any million dollar fines...

And that's not why I bumped this thread... I don't want MA to get sued. I just want the damn cash card, and perhaps a comment by some MA official.
One clear and truthful comment by MA official would clear the air.
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Tbh i think the main problem is taxation. How all the money withdrawn will be accounted for. And it gets worse since all countries have diffrent stances on if the money is subject of taxation or not, and diffrent rules on amounts and so forth. I think its one nut that needs to be cracked, and i believe the shells pretty damn hard.
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More to the point, how easy is it to transfer funds from EU to a bank in just about any country worldwide...China being an obvious example coming soon?
probably alot easier than using a cash card in many places. I do wonder if this is the sticking point, that the cash card has to be honored worldwide and noone wants to accept the liabilities.

LighterThief is bang on, we dont need a cash card if we had sensible withdraw time, its just a nice addition. its a good distraction really, we debate the cash card while ignoring the fundemental lack of a timely withdraw service.

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Tbh i think the main problem is taxation. How all the money withdrawn will be accounted for.
as with any other tax, its our problem. we can either declare it or not and face the consequences under our law. If you ask MA about tax, thats the answer they will give you, its up to your local law.
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Making a withdrawl from this game and the time it takes has always been a major concern of mine and of a couple other potenial players I know of.

Over the years and before the US Government passed its online gambling laws I used to play at some online casinos and sportbooks. Seasoned players are aware that the top sportbooks could and would pay you one way or another within 24-72 hours.

When credit cards were still used they would credit back to you whatever your deposits equalled in the past year. If the amount was more then that, you would be charged a small fee and they would fedex you a check for the balance and send it to your home address. Either way within a week you had your money.

On the other hand places that were frowned upon would use every trick in the book to delay your withdrawl and it could take months. This is something I would think many potenial players are aware of and if EU hopes to expand I would suggest that these slow payment problems are addressed.

At the very least returning deposits back to the credit card from which it came should be done as doing so has its own built in fraud protection for all parties or can if it is done correctly. Amounts over deposits made could be looked at more closely and handled by wire or check.

I really hope MA gets this done soon as I really enjoy the game but these delays are a concern of mine.
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