Creative Kingdom & Thai Government Collaborate on Landmark Cyber City in Entropia Universe

[Nicole]

Originally Posted by Lady Trisha

Interesting !

Yeah what she said !

[Xandra]

Hi,

with all due respect, Kerham:

Originally Posted by Kerham

Yeah let's see, a game which can be played on 8 yo computer, which graphics developed as far as the toad's knee, with tremendous customization of avatar (8 wooping faces wow), in where the comunication is limited to "I pwn u nub", where any 12 yo can signup with the money from mommy for chewing-gum, with the most boring story-line in history, with weekly nerfing, throwing to garbage any investition in skilling and time spent, arrogant support, achievements IRL exactly 0 and blabla bla.

It might be forbidden to mention due to rule 4711 (or what one?) here, but it's a lot of fun! A lot of stupid little funny things hidden here & there, lot's of things to do beyond the usual AC'ing we suffer in EU, gimmicks, regularly events where everyone can participate, and, even if not the best one, but there's a story line. There's a lot of fun playing it, and this is IMHO why it's this successful.

Originally Posted by Kerham

Gime a freaking break with WoW, EU is challenging that position.

EU might start to challenge other games/ virtual worlds that nobody knows, IMHO. Even sucky SL easily is still ways above 'em, check reality, plz!

Originally Posted by Kerham

How many players you know sticking to WoW with same character for more than 1 year and what exactly incentive to play the game you have after say 6 months?

Me, and my complete guild? And, fun?

Originally Posted by Kerham

EU will probably never reach WoW's player base, because while EU targets players with viable personal income, respectively employees, >20 yrs, WoW targets teenagers.

I'm no teenager, and I have viable personal income. So are the other members of our WoW guild. Our youngest member has just passed the 30's. We all are active with same toons for more then a year, we haven't yet reached L60, but we all have fun - why would we play otherwise? And, just for the record, the costs we all together pay at Blizzard are tiny compared to what I alone deposit to MA ...

Originally Posted by Kerham

But as capital generated/user and lifetime of an avatar and, at some point in future, even as turnover, EU will challenge WoW. At least because graphic and concepts evolve, while WoW is pretty much stuck in evolution.

An EU avatar might have a longer lifespan, right, because of the insane sums most of us are pumping into it in the hope of finally hitting the JackPot, but why does this make EU a challenge to WoW, or even to other similar games? Do you really think CryEngine2 will create a big invasion of new players when many old players will be locked out due to crazy hardware requirements? We'll see, and I really try to be optimistic - but after having bought Crysis & installed on my rather new machine I can really only hope that it's scaling as well as promised, and that MA's developers will do a ways better job as they did with the gamebryo engine ...

Kerham, I think the comparison EU - WoW is plain ridiculous. These both are not comparable, WoW aims for entertainment of large consumer tiers, EU aims for rich elitist "investors". EU had a chance to really challenge WoW if they'd offer secured investments, ways more "story line" then now, ways more "avatar improvement" then now, and ways less "allmighty Ubers" then we have now - ways more fun for the participants! OK, Uber's would cry Armageddon, and thus we'll never see this - and thus EU will never be able to compete with WoW or the games that will follow.

EU will always remain a niche product for gambling addicts, if MA doesn't do a 180 degree turn. They will not do it, and they'd be stupid if they'd do. I'm just hoping that they at least keep this ground, but I really fear they're preparing for a change to a "Modified Second life" ...

Have fun!

[Dahlifyr]

Originally Posted by Xandra

Hi,

with all due respect, Kerham:


It might be forbidden to mention due to rule 4711 (or what one?) here, but it's a lot of fun! A lot of stupid little funny things hidden here & there, lot's of things to do beyond the usual AC'ing we suffer in EU, gimmicks, regularly events where everyone can participate, and, even if not the best one, but there's a story line. There's a lot of fun playing it, and this is IMHO why it's this successful.


EU might start to challenge other games/ virtual worlds that nobody knows, IMHO. Even sucky SL easily is still ways above 'em, check reality, plz!


Me, and my complete guild? And, fun?


I'm no teenager, and I have viable personal income. So are the other members of our WoW guild. Our youngest member has just passed the 30's. We all are active with same toons for more then a year, we haven't yet reached L60, but we all have fun - why would we play otherwise? And, just for the record, the costs we all together pay at Blizzard are tiny compared to what I alone deposit to MA ...


An EU avatar might have a longer lifespan, right, because of the insane sums most of us are pumping into it in the hope of finally hitting the JackPot, but why does this make EU a challenge to WoW, or even to other similar games? Do you really think CryEngine2 will create a big invasion of new players when many old players will be locked out due to crazy hardware requirements? We'll see, and I really try to be optimistic - but after having bought Crysis & installed on my rather new machine I can really only hope that it's scaling as well as promised, and that MA's developers will do a ways better job as they did with the gamebryo engine ...

Kerham, I think the comparison EU - WoW is plain ridiculous. These both are not comparable, WoW aims for entertainment of large consumer tiers, EU aims for rich elitist "investors". EU had a chance to really challenge WoW if they'd offer secured investments, ways more "story line" then now, ways more "avatar improvement" then now, and ways less "allmighty Ubers" then we have now - ways more fun for the participants! OK, Uber's would cry Armageddon, and thus we'll never see this - and thus EU will never be able to compete with WoW or the games that will follow.

EU will always remain a niche product for gambling addicts, if MA doesn't do a 180 degree turn. They will not do it, and they'd be stupid if they'd do. I'm just hoping that they at least keep this ground, but I really fear they're preparing for a change to a "Modified Second life" ...

Have fun!

Great post!! And this not just goes for WoW, but for many many mmo:s out there.

[Radio]

While I'm happy that MindArk have made another business deal I am left confused as to what this means to me as a player of a game.

My needs are pretty simple, I shoot things and I sell the things that I collect from shooting. I interact with my fellow players and I generally skill.

I'm excited about the graphical advances of the cry engine.

Project Entropia and latterly the Entropia Universe for me are not a life replacement as you seem to recently be touting. It is in fact a recreation activity. There's a very long way to go before we're into lawnmoreman/total recall territory.
I'll be honest with you, a 3d shopping zone, I'll visit it and have a look around once or twice then I'll get back to the game.

If these partnerships give us something in the form of gameplay (shopping is not gameplay, I avoid it with the lady on Saturdays) then I'm all for it. If it is just a pretty place to look at and to buy (real world) things then I'm not interested.

Jan, Marco, Frank, et al.
I signed up to Project Entropia, the game based on a real cash economy. I pumped 10's of thousand into your bank because I like indie companies, they after all keep the economy of every country in the world running.
I'm really unsure of this path that you're taking, I play recreational games. I don't play cyber shopping or cyber sight seeing I've the whole real world for that. I don't subscribe to life replacement.

I'd like to point out that I'm not flaming you here I'm just voicing my opinion and dollars as a fellow business owner.

Final tips to raise trust with your playerbase (this is what you are lacking the most).

1. Open and frank Communication
1. Customer Interaction
1. Open and frank Communication
1. Customer Interaction


I am your bread and butter, I choose to put the money into your bank - If you move too far away from the "Game" then I'm afraid I'll find something else to occupy the slot in recreational time and to empty my wallet accordingly.

[toro]

The maiden project for the new complex will be CKI's collaboration with the Swedish company Mindark, makers of Entropia Universe, an enormously successful Massive Multiplayer Online Role-Playing Game (MMORG) with a real cash economy that is already positioned to challenge the dominance of market leader World of Warcraft. CKI, the first high-profile architectural firm to be enlisted for such an undertaking, will design an entire planet within Entropia Universe.

WOW have 10 million subscribers (Blizzard Entertainment - Press Release)
Blizzard profit per 3 months is probably bigger that the entire "estimated" PE turnover per year.

The Entropia Universe is a direct continuation of Project Entropia, which had a 2006 turnover of 3.6 Billion PED ($360M).

I guess Blizzard is like a turp compared to an atrox... drunken atrox... oil stoned atrox...

[Kerham]

Xandra, then, if u want fun, what exactly u do in EU? Being an RCE, it is obviously focused on money, what's the problem? EU is not only for elitist investors, but if you want expansive items, you need to pay alot, doh. I agree in some points is ridiculous, but more ridiculous than mod fap in EU (which can be SOLD for REAL money) is the orange hammer of nobody in WoW which, after obtaining it after X months of grinding, u can stick it right in the toilet. Or you can sell it, but that's illegal there.

I agree in WoW there's alot of fun stuff, like:

- pay 10 euro to have that
- pay 15 euro to have murloc pet
- pay 10 euro for the secret code to my ass
etc

Ofc, at the end of the day, after paying, you have... nothing.

Any idiot reporting you for trading gold (even if without any kind of reason) will get u temp banned & red flagged.

Yes, WoW is fun, but it has one quality: awarness. Did you checked lately how look the games on the market and how does WoW look?

WoW will simply reach a point when will simply vanish, if it doesn't improve the game concepts, to find SOMETHING except grinding like an idiot for 3 pieces of skin so this or that NPC gives you the mighty knife which can cut bread.

It has more succes than EU because stupid things are understood easily by more ppl, that doesn't mean WoW has anything above EU in quality.

And yes, I did play WoW, I don't speak from literature on internet.

P.S.: i will stop posting on the matter here, don't have what to add, but do think that exist ppl who also want from a VR experience something more than "gimmicks".

[Einstein]

Originally Posted by Nighthawk

Have anyone of you even read about MA's development plans? lol
If you think it's crazy saying they can take on WoW by the playerbase size I wonder if you have seen their numbers?

MA is expecting (according to what I read somewhere):
150M accounts within a few years.
6M players online at the same time.


So...?

I think that was their 5-year plan 5 years ago too

The game still never really took off, MA tries and tries and keeps trying.

Perhaps one day it'll work.

Altho I would like to see them work more at the basics of the game instead of doing megalomane projects.

Big problem of this game is keeping the newbies and give them something fun to do. The game is just too hard for beginners at this time I think.

[Sirhc]

The maiden project for the new complex will be CKI's collaboration with the Swedish company Mindark, makers of Entropia Universe, an enormously successful Massive Multiplayer Online Role-Playing Game (MMORG) with a real cash economy that is already positioned to challenge the dominance of market leader World of Warcraft. CKI, the first high-profile architectural firm to be enlisted for such an undertaking, will design an entire planet within Entropia Universe.

Its business people! sheesh. Every business I have worked for strives to be the best in their group of peers. Currently who is the top dog in the MMO genre? Its WoW

If you look at all the gaming industry leaders there are those trying to topple the best. WoW was not always the top dog and I am sure they made similar statements about challenging the position of the market leader when it first came out.

I hear it all the time "Halo-Killers" "WoW clones" etc etc. If you are going to try to be the best in your genre then aim for the top spot. Maybe you will make it maybe not but that is all up to how you follow through.

As EU is right now it may not look possible to even give Blizzard a tingle on their collective necks. Given time, MA and their co-developers might create something that makes even Blizzard take notice. At the very least if MA and the co-developers strive to unseat the big dog we might actually start seeing many of the things we always gripe about become a reality.

I am all for it lets see what they can do before booo hoooing it.


PS. The Magiquest thing was joke lol I stumbled upon that sight while doing some research on Dubai and gaming. At first I thought it was the same company but then I realized I added and s in my search and thought it was cheezy enough to make fun of.

[Wikkerman]

Has anyone else noticed the stir this piece of sensayyyyyyytional news is causing in the outside world?

Or was it just a virtual press release?

[Rumsponge]

I think it's virtually a press release.

Maybe the Thai people are really excited, but I haven't seen any mention on CNN yet.