Event system coming

[Onica]

What about events with no entry fee for participants? The organizers already have to put up the prize money and/or items, why should they have to pay a fee too? IMO that could ruin events. If MA required an organizers fee and/or an entry fee, some types of events would be impossible. And why should MA want or need to make money off of events? Events keep people interested in PE, so they stick around and pass the time before the event decaying something. And events involving combat make people want to skill up to prepare - so there's more money to MA.
Keep the community happy = Keep the Community. That's more than enough for MA to get out of events.

[Singular]

DD -

very well reasoned

/me bowing

allthough I dont agree on your points I see some logic behind some..

Well have to see how MA will create it

Its just that I feel we live in an economy insted of a society, where the value of PED/DOLLAR overrulez the value of men... and that should never be the case.

[Kay]

I would like to have the possibility to do the event I want, I think that pre-arranged events will limit people’s creativity. If there is a box where we can write the nature of the event, it will be great.
I like the ‘minimum participants’, this will make a restriction on the number of events.
PVP and non-PVP events should both be allowed.
The prize could be anything, from trophy to peds, but should have a TT value.

[Singular]

I dont think there shouldnt be any restrictions at all

My idea would be like:

* Create a system for handeling all the money issues, thats allways tiresome and distracting from things at hand.

* The event chat activated, event organiser can invite and except requests to join the event-chat, globals tru main chat to anounce events.

* a system like a event-terminal to request "Arena time" and setting all options you want it to have. Applying to join an event/ paying entreefee.

* An Arena to do gladiator style events (would also function as a boxingring) the Arena should have some nifty structure to prevent others from ruining it. like a lockable gate..

* sigh.... a system to determine the entree fee for spectators adjustable by the organiser.

* Some unique throphy items to symbolize the value of winning contests, Im thinking boxingbelts for three weight classes, a beautycrown or Tiara for Miss Calypso etc etc

* I think a event system should be flexible and easy to use, adjustable meaning to decide all settings ( like in huntingteamcreating )

* And last but by nomeans least: a system to prevent the massive LAG during an event, caused by the number of ppl attending.
I even think that one is the most important one... if playersided events are to do well, we need to be able to have a lot of ppl around in one place without suffering from serveroverload symtems.

Ugh

[raeky]

1, event terminal with 2 functions, a calendar to announce events (low cost, like say 10 ped or something), this would place your event with description on a calandar everyone can see, and be feed via XML feed on the website so all the websites can list in-game events.

2, A universal event building. This would be a building located in some city somewhere. It would have unlimited space inside (i.e. the inside space isn't physically connected to outside space requirements), same building would host unlimited number of events of various size areas).

The building would have a universal teleporter access to the different events. If your a registered partcipant/employee of an event you teleport to one area for that event, if your a spectator you teleport to the guest area for that event. Teleporting to the guest area automaticly buys you a "ticket" for that event set at whatever cost the event promoter wants (minimum is 1 ped which is solely mindark fee, anything over goes into the prize pool). The ticket will allow the person to enter the guest area all they want for the entire period of the event.

The same event terminal would have rentals for these event areas. It would cost more depending on the number of partcipants you allow and the number of guests you allow The event promoter must pay (in advance) a fee for every guest seat they allow, and every particpant they allow, so you rent a building that can seat 100 guests max and host 20 particpants max. This fee for examplke could be 120 ped. This would rent you a building that would hold that many, max. You could upgrade to a larger building but not downgrade. The fee is non-refundable.

Once the building is rented and you paid your fees (rental fee + calandar listing fee), the event is listed and promoted. There would also be additional fees you can select.

- event trophies. The event promoter can select from a very wide selection of trophies for the events winners. These are picked and PAID for beforehand. They can range from
-- trophy cups of various designs and styles. (designs specificly for different types of events)
-- trophy stands of various types with figures of boxers or animals or whatever on them and various sizes.
-- banners that have a custom message across them for the different winners.
-- wreaths and crowns to put on the winners with custom messages
-- crowns, teiras, etc.. of various sizes and types
-- whatever else prizes that would make nice nicknacks for houses or to be worn by the winner.
- The trophies would be tagged, permenetly, with the event name, date and place the prize was for (1st, 2nd, and 3rd). This info would be viewable by looking at its info, or if its a banner it would also include a custom message that would be visible by anyone when the person is wearing it.
- The trophies would be expensive, badges and tiny cups would be say 10-50 ped, and the large trophies like as tall as an avatar or banners or crowns etc.. could be several hundred to thousands of peds. Basicly every type of trophy would have cheap options and expensive options.
- Trophies are tradeable/dropable but are permently tagged by with the winning avatar's name, date of the event, name of the event, and place that the trophy was for.
- Trophies are not given to the event coordonator, but are awarded by the terminal to the winner, the event cord specifies who the winner was in the terminal and the winner can pick up their prize (this would be necessary in order to tag it by an avatar's name).

- You can also purchance a global annoucement about the event, and a global annoucement about the outcome of an event (very expensive say hundreds of peds)
- You could even purchance an offical mindark avatar to be present at the event, this would cost probably 1000-2000 ped and they avatar would be there (money to pay the employee to login and spend time at the event).


Basicly the event terminal should have a callendar to list events that are player ran, and do not need a special building, and the terminal should also rent out special buildings. The fees collected for the number of people the terminal can fit and the spectator fee they pay to view are used to pay for server hosting costs. You could buy a building to host 1000 people and mindark would dedicate enough server power and bandwith for that event to make sure it dosn't lag even if 1000 people are in the area, plus it would automaticly be divided up into sections so that only say 30-40 people max are in each area in the spectator stands. that way noone excessively lags. (can't have 1000 people in the same area with the current game mechanices even if the servers had enough bandiwth and cpu to support it).

So events without special buildings are cheap, events with special buildings your paying to make sure that there is enough server power devoted to the area to avoid or lower the risk of lag.

[Singular]

Originally Posted by raeky

- You can also purchance a global annoucement about the event, and a global annoucement about the outcome of an event (very expensive say hundreds of peds)
- You could even purchance an offical mindark avatar to be present at the event, this would cost probably 1000-2000 ped and they avatar would be there (money to pay the employee to login and spend time at the event)..

Purchance a global??? You must be joking... what a bad idea
Maybe you didnt notice but not all things in life are about money, besidez the best things in life are free...

btw why should it be excpensive? only rich organizers are able to effort it, or it has to be charged back to the ppl joining the event, and I dont think they like to pay for a global.

Up till now most events have been organized very well, why should making it cost money professionalize it all of a sudden???

I dont buy it, I think some ppl just see a way to make money out of events, but trying to make money out of it just wont work...

I think MA should help players to set up a system to help organize it, not charging money, nor should it cost money to rent a event area.

Anyway, whatever the system looks like, I realy hope there will be a choice to make ppl pay, so it is still possible to NOT charge for participating. Eventually it will all go out of the total price money.

[raeky]

Originally Posted by Singular

Purchance a global??? You must be joking... what a bad idea
Maybe you didnt notice but not all things in life are about money, besidez the best things in life are free...

btw why should it be excpensive? only rich organizers are able to effort it, or it has to be charged back to the ppl joining the event, and I dont think they like to pay for a global.

Up till now most events have been organized very well, why should making it cost money professionalize it all of a sudden???

I dont buy it, I think some ppl just see a way to make money out of events, but trying to make money out of it just wont work...

I think MA should help players to set up a system to help organize it, not charging money, nor should it cost money to rent a event area.

Anyway, whatever the system looks like, I realy hope there will be a choice to make ppl pay, so it is still possible to NOT charge for participating. Eventually it will all go out of the total price money.

Well in case you didn't notice but mindark employees need food, clothes and rent for their houses. And why the hell do we want to see 50 billion stupid annoucements about stupid events that none gives a flying flip about. If the global costs 1000 ped do you think that you'll see very many?

I don't know about you, but I'd rather be able to see what people say and skill gains instad of 50 blue notices a second from every idiot and their brother.

You may run some events, but that dosn't make you the all knowing authority about how events should be ran. These features WILL NOT be free, no matter how much you cry.

[Singular]

Originally Posted by raeky

Well in case you didn't notice but mindark employees need food, clothes and rent for their houses. And why the hell do we want to see 50 billion stupid annoucements about stupid events that none gives a flying flip about. If the global costs 1000 ped do you think that you'll see very many?

I don't know about you, but I'd rather be able to see what people say and skill gains instad of 50 blue notices a second from every idiot and their brother.

You may run some events, but that dosn't make you the all knowing authority about how events should be ran. These features WILL NOT be free, no matter how much you cry.

Whats your problem mate?
I never claimed to be any authority on events, I just post my opinion like you do. Do you have a problem with that?

I believe your completly missing the point here, and an other thing... didnt you quit PE, so what are YOU crying about?

MA employees needing food and rent??? what does that have to do with anything, dont PE employees make enough out of all the other things that cost money, dont they get a regular paycheck? What do you care?

50 billion stupid announcement about stupid events that none give a flying flip about?

I think you can choice to see eventchat like you can in soc chat, so you dont need to see any announcements on stupid events none give a flying flip about

By the way if its just about stupid events none give a flying flip about, WTF do you care? You dont seem to like them...

[raeky]

Globals are sent to everyone on all chats, well maybe not if your on Team, or Society, or Events... but in All you see global messages (those big red ones). There should be under absoutely no circumstance that a player would have the ability to make one of those at their will not without EXTREME cost. The cost would be to make sure that if a player does one that its absoutely vitial and necessary. (1000 ped i think is approprate. ;-).

I sold out, and that dosn't mean I wouldn't have opinion about PE anymore, specificly these. And I did pickup from the tone of your posts that you think your opinion is more imporant then others, or whatever. You make statements like there fact, and they're not. These features should not be free. If they're free they get more abuse (i.e. auction?). A minimum of 1 ped fee to do ANYTHING in the event terminal should be there. I think 10 ped to list an event on the calandar, and then a substanstial fee (that goes to mindark) for rental of a specific area/building (to allow them to pay for additional servers to dedicate to the events, less lag).

No free globals, no free event listings, period.

[Fiona Simmons]

Reaky i dont see the Point why Events should have Fees. They meant to Support the Communety to make something Interessting, motivating People to stay in Pe and giving bored People Tasks to do something out of Ordenary.

Pe get compared a lot with RL Casinos. A lot of good Casinos offer free Entertainment even free Drinks Food and Housings to their Clients just making sure they Come back and Gamble. Why should PE goes a different way ? I dont think they can't pay their Rents anymore if they decide not making Monney with an Event System ,)

If you able to do a Spawn Event MA will make the usal Monney from Weapon and Ammo Decay. People will spend Monney to donate Prices for their Events.

If you make Events Expensive this means it will be less Events and People wont Come or scared to organize one. Nobody need a pretty Cool Event System nobody use because the Costs. 1000 Ped for a Broadcast, sorry but who will use that ? Imagine what you can buy for Prices for 1000 Ped who make mutch more Sense for an Event than a Single Message who is off the Screen in some Seconds. About your Concerns with the Broadcasts. There is a Event Chat Channel and i have never seen a Message in it. This would a great Use for that Channel and if someone dont want to Listen he can Ignore that Chat.

I accept your Opinion because i think you make you Real Concerns about possible Exploits but i dont share it. We shouldn't forget the Goal of such an System is to make PE a more Funny and Interessting Place to stay. The Effords People put in a Event System to improve PE for other Gamblers has also some Value for MA because they outsourced the Ressources to create and Perform Interessting Quests and Events for the Communety. If you put Incredible Ammounts of Time, Organisation and Some Monney for Prices into a Event you wont like to get Extra Charged to use the new Tools. I would love to see the Event System as a Contribution form MA to their Base

my about this Point

Kind Regards

Fiona