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Old 03-19-2006, 01:26   #81
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I now it is possible inside PE, and that it can be done, but what i wanted to say is that in RL they can't tell if you looked at an ad in a billboard.

And thanks for making me think again, i agree i was wrong there, the ad price model will be as most of the others in the internet with a cost per impression. (per look in PE's case)

It's just me who's mixing PE and RL too much. (maybe spending too much time in Calypso)


And about MA having the tech, it is quite simple to implement this system.
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Also, any statement Marco made in the past does not mean that it is true of MA today. I personally believe that a good percentage of the rent for estates/apartments goes directly to MA.

I do believe a bit more in official MA documentation than marco, and , in the documentation its cleary stated that MA take :
For sure:
decay + auction fee+rent fee(apartement shop..)
Probably :
land sell , apartement sell , big complex sell(TI,CND) , house , hangar ...

In other word , MA take directly for them the deposit , and give from it the money to people that withdraw.
Decay is used to reduce the momeny curently in game .
so , MA is somewhat payed from "decay" .

As for the advert system , i still dont see any good explenation on how it will work .
So how it come you are all dreaming about "cheaper" game , without knowing how the money will be given...
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Old 03-19-2006, 09:11   #83
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Do you have a link for this? Because I remember Marco saying that decay is revenue but I don't remember him saying that it was their ONLY source of revenue.

Also, any statement Marco made in the past does not mean that it is true of MA today. I personally believe that a good percentage of the rent for estates/apartments goes directly to MA.
Sorry, no link. You will have to do the searching yourself

I know this is stuff said in the past, but I don't think it's changed. Of course I don't know(I don't know anything, just as no other non-MA does) about new things like the new extra 5%(or somthing) when buying thigs at shopkeepers as well as these new fees for the ad-system. That's why I ask


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For sure:
decay + auction fee+rent fee(apartement shop..)
Probably :
land sell , apartement sell , big complex sell(TI,CND) , house , hangar ...
No way they take the auction fee, that's also been said by Marco on several occasions (that is in case I am remembering correcyl). But I see how you doubt that when you don't trust Marco...

Not really sure about the large TI/CND but I think all the money from the smaller ones went back to the players.
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No way they take the auction fee, that's also been said by Marco on several occasions (that is in case I am remembering correcyl). But I see how you doubt that when you don't trust Marco...

Not really sure about the large TI/CND but I think all the money from the smaller ones went back to the players.

from MA documentation :
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PE's income base is fees that the players pay for aquisition, repair and renewal of the different asset and objects that the player chooses to use in the game.
for me that mean all the fees in game , and the only fee i pay when i buy item its auction fee....
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for me that mean all the fees in game , and the only fee i pay when i buy item its auction fee....
Sounds more like decay and tax upon buying items from shops to me (perhaps also the money from estate sales).
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Sounds more like decay and tax upon buying items from shops to me (perhaps also the money from estate sales).
shop was not exist when that doc was made.
also auction is fee , apartement is fee , shop is fee ...
all fee go to MA
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I know you are already aware of this post from Marco, Etopia, but I post it so others can come to their own conclusions about who to believe.

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No, MindArks revenue stream is from decay. So it is not an urban legend. All other areas (auction fee, ammo, etc) is cycled back into the economy.
From this thread :- http://www.entropiaforum.com/forums/...2752#post92752
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I know you are already aware of this post from Marco, Etopia, but I post it so others can come to their own conclusions about who to believe.



From this thread :- http://www.entropiaforum.com/forums/...2752#post92752

sure
but i personally trust more that :
http://www.mindark.com/docs/pr/mindark_prospekt_en.pdf

official documentation for mindark share owner , than marco post for player on an un-official forum.
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for me that mean all the fees in game , and the only fee i pay when i buy item its auction fee....
hmm
I only pay a fee in auction when i sell something
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