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[Quinn Dexter]

Originally Posted by Zanathos

one thing that would be nice about this game is MAKE IT LESS OF A FREAKIN LOTTERY!
..... god :/ it seems to be turning more into more of a kind of lottery...

People should realise that EU is really just a complex CASINO without any regulatory controls. MA can change the rules/odds/whatever whenever they like. There is NOBODY who can tell them what to do. There are no controls. The only "control" we have is to leave the game, but too many people are hooked (EU is really just a form of gambling) and will not leave. MA knows that people are hooked which gives them the opportunity to take a bigger cut of our loot.

Even at my local casino I have about a 90% chance of getting my money back over the long term. If I put $100 on black on a roulette wheel, there is about 48% chance I will double my money and 52% chance I will lose it. Overall, there is approx a 95% chance I will go home with the money I came in with.

In EU the chance is about 50% (or even less) that I will retain my PED if I only go hunting. With these Amp changes, the odds are probably even worse. Forget about making a profit. You have a better chance of winning a jackpot on a poker machine!

The exact percentages may not be spot on, but you get my drift.

At least we can still all hang around the TPs for free and gossip all day. Until MA starts to decay our avatars for not eating, of course!

[Witte]

Originally Posted by Quinn Dexter

People should realise that EU is really just a complex CASINO without any regulatory controls. MA can change the rules/odds/whatever whenever they like. There is NOBODY who can tell them what to do. There are no controls. The only "control" we have is to leave the game, but too many people are hooked (EU is really just a form of gambling) and will not leave. MA knows that people are hooked which gives them the opportunity to take a bigger cut of our loot.

Even at my local casino I have about a 90% chance of getting my money back over the long term. If I put $100 on black on a roulette wheel, there is about 48% chance I will double my money and 52% chance I will lose it. Overall, there is approx a 95% chance I will go home with the money I came in with.

In EU the chance is about 50% (or even less) that I will retain my PED if I only go hunting. With these Amp changes, the odds are probably even worse. Forget about making a profit. You have a better chance of winning a jackpot on a poker machine!

The exact percentages may not be spot on, but you get my drift.

At least we can still all hang around the TPs for free and gossip all day. Until MA starts to decay our avatars for not eating, of course!

Indeed, making profit should be very easy, so that everyone can make profit and nobody needs to deposit anymore. Then we can all keep withdrawing and we will all be bloody rich.

[kygon]

Originally Posted by Witte

Indeed, making profit should be very easy, so that everyone can make profit and nobody needs to deposit anymore. Then we can all keep withdrawing and we will all be bloody rich.

uuuuhuu yea we should all profit and then MA could become the best charity ever lol

ppl seem to forget that there was a time before TTguns and amps, we all managed to get by before 10/10 tt weapons , just find a new setup that works for you, in EU if you cannot adapt you will not enjoy yourself.

[Witte]

Originally Posted by kygon

uuuuhuu yea we should all profit and then MA could become the best charity ever lol

ppl seem to forget that there was a time before TTguns and amps, we all managed to get by before 10/10 tt weapons , just find a new setup that works for you, in EU if you cannot adapt you will not enjoy yourself.

People also seem to forget, that for every person that makes profit another person has to deposit ALLOT MORE. You are not winning money from MA, you are winning from other players if you profit. MA only taxes you in your attempt to do this.

No matter what auction/shop/esi/whatever system they invent they can always adjust the "tax" to their liking, with or without such system. So thinking MA is making those systems to get more momey, is just illogical. If they just want more money, the simply increase the decay you have on your armor, by making mobs hit more often. Or even simpler, the will lower the loots by a small margin. Nobody will ever notice it then.

[Quinn Dexter]

Originally Posted by Witte

People also seem to forget, that for every person that makes profit another person has to deposit ALLOT MORE. You are not winning money from MA, you are winning from other players if you profit. MA only taxes you in your attempt to do this.

No matter what auction/shop/esi/whatever system they invent they can always adjust the "tax" to their liking, with or without such system. So thinking MA is making those systems to get more momey, is just illogical. If they just want more money, the simply increase the decay you have on your armor, by making mobs hit more often. Or even simpler, the will lower the loots by a small margin. Nobody will ever notice it then.

My point exactly. MA can do whatever they want in order to make a profit from their BUSINESS. I don't have a problem with this, but I do think people should understand how EU works. This is a form of gambling and people, including myself, are probably addicted to EU to some extent or other.

MA themselves state that EU is not a game, and although it is a "real cash economy", it is tightly controlled by MA. In my opinion, EU is a cross between a complex video game and a casino. There is too much missing from EU to make it a true virtual economy.

For example, there are no compulsory "life-related" expenses such as food or shelter. Of course, you can own an apartment, but that is optional. Most avators live in limbo when not active, and don't have to go home to an apartment to cook their meals and go to sleep.

It is much too hard to earn PED by working at a job. Sure, you can do some hairdressing, perhaps own land, trade or transport people up to CND and back, but these activities are exceptions to the rule. So most people can only hope to get PED by hunting, manufacturing or mining, and all these activities are manipulated by MA. So most people work in real life and deposit.

But having said all that, I think EU is a pretty neat idea and a potentially great simulation of virtual life. If only MA managed to get rid of the HORRID LAG. The constant hanging and lagging annoys me much more than the Opalo-Amplifier issue. That can be the next topic of discussion.

[h0n3y]

ok MA i think you should really fix my avatar! you have changed it a lot.. and i really hate this! and what about the peds in the loot?? that was the best part from the hunts... please fix it...

[Scarlon]

Lots of oppinions, lots of questions from all kinda players... but in the end: COME OUT, COME OUT, WHERE EVER YOU ARE!! and make some light in this world (and VU offcourse).

[gmccumskey]

Originally Posted by Quinn Dexter

My point exactly. MA can do whatever they want in order to make a profit from their BUSINESS. I don't have a problem with this, but I do think people should understand how EU works. This is a form of gambling and people, including myself, are probably addicted to EU to some extent or other.

I tend to disagree with your statement that Entropia Universe is addictive because it is like a casino. A recent study found that 90% of ALL MMOG's participants attested to an addicitve quality, and this refers to other non RCE games, so your statment is actually invalid.

I also disagree with the constant affirmation by people that Entropia Universe is a casino. No casino basis your ability to perform on skills you accumulate. Nor do they base your "profitability" on tool combinations. The sheer complexity of Entropia makes it far more than a simple casino setup. In addition, whether you profit or lose on hunts, mining, crafting, etc, does not affect MA's income, but the available cash that is retained in the universe ... otherwise known as the loot pool.

Personally I have found a definite pattern to looting when mining or hunting. Don't worry, I'm not turning into a Rattexx clone, its not a pattern I can use to profit from, just a general trend. Casinos do not exhibit patterns as they strive to ensure absolute randomness.

As long as MA keeps what any person can loot based on what is input into the system, and doesn't allow it to exceed that figure, they will never make a loss ... its as simple as that.