Recent Change to Team Settings

[Witte]

I agree with demoniac. This thread is one big whinefest.

[Kaiser]

Originally Posted by demoniac

I agree that the team rules don't work well as they are now but there does seem to be a lot of unneccessary bad feeling in the replies here.

It's a thread sucked from the EU site by a forum bot ffs and it should be seen as a (small) victory that MA have actually posted something on their site acknowledging there are issues with the new system.

Before the team rules arrived (or the team option at all) all team hunts were based on an element of trust and somebody calculating and dividing the spoils at the end. OK we seem to have now taken a step backward in this respect but maybe it was a temporary measure to accommodate the new loot system. They are clearly publicly taking notice of our concerns so file a support case and shift it up their priority list.

I just find it sad that so many threads get filled with snide comments about MA and Marco rather than anything constructive.

I read it and I do not see any admission by them that it is an issue. All it says is that they have had questions. I unfortunately do not see this as a small victory but yet another slap in the face. All they had to do was read some numbers about how much team hunting was going on and look at the chosen loot rules and they would have known this was a horribly bad move. I know someoen will try to say "they probably don't have that info logged" but personally I do nto see how they couldn't. A responsible company will know everything about every cent they pay out and if MA doesn't then we ALL need to be scared.

Unfortunately I do not see where any forgiveness is in order. We are paying customers and that should warrant some business decisions that actually benefit us.

[Witte]

The post basicly states that they are evaluating the system as it is now. That means that they are looking for ways to improve it. And they ask the community for input for this.

What else do ya want them to do? Just make a change again in the hope the community likes it this time?

[Kaiser]

Originally Posted by Witte

The post basicly states that they are evaluating the system as it is now. That means that they are looking for ways to improve it. And they ask the community for input for this.

What else do ya want them to do? Just make a change again in the hope the community likes it this time?

Well to be honest there is not a lot of faith in this and rightfully so. All they had to do was read the EF threads where the overwhelming majority of people voted not to cahnge it and not change it.

Why would we take anything they say at this point as truth?

[J D]

The fun has been taken out of Team Hunting!

Now we have to evaluate all members and weapons used!
Collect all loot! End the hunt when someone leaves, split and divide loot!

Somewhere in there, have an enjoyable Hunt!

....of to bash Bots solo now!!!

Improve this situation please MA!!!

[safara]

The opinions of participants are also an important part of this evaluation and we urge you to continue to post and discuss your opinions about this change. Our Community Director is following this issue closely.

I am a bit confused if this is the place to make my feelings on the matter known to MA. I have filed a support case about the Team Loot. But now we have a snippit on the EU website that says we should continue posting and discuss. Post where?? The EU site does not have a forum Does it mean we should keep filing support cases??

Anyway, as we know Marco reads EF from time to time, I will put my tick in the ballot box here as well.

MA, please could you reinstate the options for "equal peds" and "damage decides peds" but substitute the peds for stackables. Basically can we please have the ability to split the stackables according to damage or equal settings as well as the existing setting.

Thank you.

Edit - for an idea of the feelings about this, please have a look at the poll results so far here

[Marco|MindArk]

I am following this thread (and others) closely. The changes to the team loot was made mainly for technical reasons (performance-wise). To keep Entropia as safe and secure as possible a lot of technical aspects are to be considered, in terms of transaction-integrity and verification of each and every item transaction (this includes the merge and split of items in item stacks). As the statement said, we are evaluation this change closely. We are very much aware of the reactions from you guys, on every level within MA, from top to bottom, but we need to evaluate this in order to reduce "loot lag" in the system.

[Look]

This explanation is much better and detailed than this one Berta gave us.
Thanks Marco.

[safara]

Good to see you on the case Marco

[Witte]

Here is another idea for teamsetting:

Make EVERYONE in EU one big team.
When a creature is killed, it would be like everyone that helped kill that mob, was looting it on their own, but the loot recieved only corresponds the damage damage done by that person.
Example: Person one does 400HP and person two does 200 HP. When the mob is looted, it would be like person one is looting a mob of 400HP and person 2 is looting a mob of 200HP.

The drawback would be that teamglobals are no longer possible. It can be that one person gets a global, and another nothing. But thats how it basicly works atm too. The advantage is that killstealing is no longer an issue.

The other idea is ofcourse to split stacks in team, either equally, or determined by damage. The best would be that these two systems coexist together, and that stacksplitting only happens when a team is created.