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Old 04-05-2007, 14:24   #21
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I dont really see a lending system as sollution to the root problem here, not very realistic to use it either, if this is supposed to be a virtual reality.
Hehe - you just said it. It's "Virtual" Reality. Anything is possible in Virtual Reality and a Loan System should certainly be made a Reality in this Virtual Reality.

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What a nasty backhanded friendly FYI.

They might as well have added "PS ETA on banks just 30 days and counting."
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the bank system is the reason why MA will never implelment p to p loan system.



not because they want to protect teh bank system, but , because the bank system will make money. with secure p to p laons, all uber items become revenue gererating items. if you think uber gear is exensive now, think how exensive it will be when the resellers dont have to resell it to make a profit. they will just loan the item at a price.

reinvest your profits from loaning items into buying more ber gear, and pretty soon, all the good gear is owned buy a few pls who rent them out for profit.
This can be a valid point against lending system. And yes that could be dangerous ...
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the bank system is the reason why MA will never implelment p to p loan system.



not because they want to protect teh bank system, but , because the bank system will make money. with secure p to p laons, all uber items become revenue gererating items. if you think uber gear is exensive now, think how exensive it will be when the resellers dont have to resell it to make a profit. they will just loan the item at a price.

reinvest your profits from loaning items into buying more ber gear, and pretty soon, all the good gear is owned buy a few pls who rent them out for profit.
But isnt most uber gear allready owned by a few players, preventing the average player from ever getting to use any uber gear
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Lol ohh well perhaps not realistic, I followed the wrong darling there and i can admit that but still Im not that fond of the idea of a lending system just for the lending option alone. But plz convince me why I would want a lending system. Im not stubborn I just say how I see it. The main problem as I see it is still that none items belong to u unless u have them in storage, on ur avatar, in apt or in auction.

Why not make a ledning system a priority then?
Limited items are increasing and the plan MA is expected to follow is that more players use limited than unlimited right?

The drop rate of new unlimited items will be decreased or the value of high lvl gear will drop. Even though I wouldnt mind it dropping a bit Im sure many would like it to stay as it is. Reason why this would happen is simple. More players get easy access to items and of that reason se little or none reason to buy the certain item.

I dont belive the lending system would be good for the community in the meaning a lot of trust is currently ingame and many depend on that. It takes time to build etc etc. I think the value of that trust and honor we have ingame would be less important.

On the reason why it would be a nice thing is that it opens up a new occupation wich acctually could be needed. If a option with shared ownership would be included I would love that.

The reciept thingie could be held in one document, kind of like my items and be sorted like in auction. U could then access the info on different items to see what status u put ur item on. For example, not to be rented out(read sold), not to be tt:ed, free to borrow within soc for a certain period (and yes kind of rental), shared ownership with ****** of this item.
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as much as its a shame the lendin system aint happenin, i wont stop lending out to my mates. yup, rce is cool, but so is lending k's of $ to someone at the other side of the world u havent even met before. i trust some of these guys more than i do my RL mates :P
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Thanks to remember all trade are final but .. what is about people selling stolen ped(or buy item)?How it come the buyer , who have no clue the seller used a stolen credit card , is locked ?
If trade are final , and MA is not responssible for the trade between player , then , player should not be responsible for trade between MA and other player.

Also MA will have to create a lending system for bank...
They finally made the graphic auction and lots of other feature for bank...
I do bielieve that , after making a lending system avaible for bank , change it a bit so it work for soc , or something like that will be very very valuable.When you have spend month coding 1 feature , it worth spend som week to make it usable for 2 or 3 other feature... just my though...
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A lending system should not be that hard to implement...
And for some items I'll pay a fee to...
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the bank system is the reason why MA will never implelment p to p loan system.
I donīt think so.
A item given to a bank isnīt usable for anybody. Its locked away untill you pay back your credit.

If I want to give someone a Jag full set and a MOD FAP so he could go on a hunt he never expectet befor beeing able to survive more than 1-2 hits, it would be nice. But with the risk losing all my gear I would never do this, even if the person overs me 100 PED/hour for lending this items.
If there is a lending system that gurantees me that I get back my gear after a couple of hours, I surely will give it away for a hunt.

Sidenote: If the items could be used while I am offline (by others) there will be decay on it, and we all learned that MA profits from decay, so why not that lending system ????
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Like we did not know that already
I know it, you know it, but a newer player might not realize it.

Kudos to MA for posting some good to know information targeting newer players. I hope they add this type of stuff to the ingame ad system.
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