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Old 10-12-2007, 15:29   #51
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An explanation either Gordon Brown or Alistair Darling would be proud of. Nothing but spin.

My clothes are staying off and the armour I'm wearing stays on for now.

Did you write the EU treaty also?
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Why it always has to involve money?

Why cant it be a second bar that indicates condition? apart from tt value!

your clothes warn and look bad? go to tailor and for 1-3 ped he will fix it!

then more resources needed, more turnover, and more realistic universe.
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And ? ...

Sorry MindArk, this is not what I expected ...

Do I need to send my letter again ? Have you actually read some of the constructive posts here ? Not the whining but the clear warnings that we the average players simply can't afford this luxury game anymore if you keep going ?

I simply don't know what to say or write anymore ... I'm just gobsmacked...
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Well i'll be damned
I click on this thread EXPECTING to find: "we, at MA, we are just plain greedy, we want your money and NO its not going in the lootpool"

but i just find another lie?

what the hell?
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Latex? Leather? MMmmmmm...latex clothes....I mean...NO!

Wait!
Stop it!
Stop trying to sway me with temption!

Next you'll offer hunting sessions with "Happy Finish".
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And ? ...

Sorry MindArk, this is not what I expected ...

Do I need to send my letter again ? Have you actually read some of the constructive posts here ? Not the whining but the clear warnings that we the average players simply can't afford this luxury game anymore if you keep going ?

I simply don't know what to say or write anymore ... I'm just gobsmacked...
Jack, it's a one-way street. It seems to be able to talk to Mindark directly and get them to listen you have to have a bag of money in hand or be an attractive young woman IRL.

I have another plan to get to MA, but first we must construct a large, wooden badger...
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While the recent inclusion of a 2 PEC value deterioration of clothes and armor when equipping was indeed an attempt to minmize client side lag, it was also a step in improving the clothing system and incorporating it into the overall Entropian economy. The visual deterioration also means that, as with other items, clothes will now need to be maintained in good condition to reap their maximum benefits i.e. appearance.

As our universe expands with more and more users, a clothing system that allowed garments to be produced with low condition and have no noticeable difference to garments of high condition, would be an imbalance that would only get bigger the longer it remained. The solution was to allow clothing to deteriorate when used, as they do in reality.

These changes also compliment our future plans to increase participant customization of clothes. Amongst other things participants will be able to apply different materials like wool, leather and latex to customizable garments. This will allow talented tailors to compete in a free market with unique high quality clothing.

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Decay on clothing explanation accepted regarding as future improvement for the tailoring profession. Whats the time span for this to work out? Next year? Next 5 years? Next 10 years?

As the 2 pec equipping was just an attempt to reduce lag as you put it, I take from your words it failed.

When it is going to be removed as it failed? At least for armor it should be removed.
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thats the interesting part though

the "shape" of an item in EU hasn't been related to its condition, except on unL armors

so we can expect to see lower weapon performance when they tt become less, especially interesting for L items i guess

also with tools, suddenly your 1000m depth finder just manages 100 :P

the fap doesnt do 10-20 anymore, it will do 2-4


i dont think that answer is really satisfying tbh ^.-

besides, that your L armor decays just from putting on is a weird point itself, huh?
take it on and off and it becomes unusable
Yeah, there goes the dream of some people to buy some of the limted sets near the end of ther TT to use as fetish wear!

I may have even bought a nearly expired set of Polar just for a fashion lark, but not now.

So...with this line of reasoning, equipment will be next? swapping guns will become more expensive.
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First of all, it's nice from you to at least give an official "answer" to our complains about the 2 PEC armor/clothes decay issue. Still, lag seems a quite lame excuse to me.

I could cope with the clothes decay, but why armor as well? Do you have any idea of how that would hurt to people with limited (L) armor? And how would dramatically decrease the profit (and fun) from hunting? So, my request is simple: abolish that 2 PEC decay bill. If you really, really want to do it with clothes, fine, but do it as the clothes would decay AS TIME GOES BY. It is more logical (And realistic, since you're pursuing oh so much realism within EU) than decaying as soon as you put them off. In real life, my pants and shirts start to wear off and get dirty as I go around with them, not as soon as I put them on. To put it simply, the logic behind the 2 PEC decay as you put armor/clothes on is terribly flawed. And it sounds really, really unconvincing the reason behind it is "lag".

Don't get me wrong, I love EU, I do have less than 3 weeks playing, and I really like it, but don't let this issue turn into the last nail in Entropia Universe's coffin.
The whole issue is starting to royally piss me off. Heh, I got the mini-update 5 minutes ago, and I had some hope they would have rolled back the 2 PEC stuff. But, for my own sake I decided to check the forums first. I see I was wrong...
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MA doesn't get it.

What has many of us pissed off is the 2pec per piece of armor.

Exactly .. . .
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