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Old 12-08-2007, 12:15   #111
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As for shares ...why can't MA offer us customers some initially....it's common practice after all, Orange gave their customers the opportunity in the initial offering , British Aerospace did the same with employees...MS employees too.
I dont think its rules out, but the important factor over looked is the international make up of the player base. Put simple, they may not be permitted to sell shares to all their players. the initial press release indicates they will not be on offer in US, Japan, Australia and New Zealand, for what ever technical/administrative reasons. So do you only allow some to participate? how well will that go down with those excluded? I think it is unlikly that MA will go down this road, after all they are probably not interested in dealing with a few scores of sub $1k share allocations. Even those in the country where the stock is listed will find they probably wont be able to buy in the IPO due the minimum allocation.
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Old 12-08-2007, 20:21   #112
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Since it's allready is a AB, Aktie Bolag, it has share holders allready. Going public will not issue any new stocks, or am I totally wrong there? It will only make it possible to trade with the existing 11 000 stocks.
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I guess US citizens have to wait until the first trading day. Then everyone can buy shares.

If you buy in the morning of the first trading day you should be able to get around the same price as the IPO price. Most shares at least start trading around that price.
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Google made it's money not by ads...everything online runs ads...it made it's money by WORKING, being usable and becoming first choice (even homepage for the majority of folk)....and that made the ads worth paying for. No eyes = no value where ads are concerned.

We used to see McD and UK Navy ads and a few other RL ones on screens ingame...to be honest I haven't looked recently so they aren't eye catching if they are there.
More ads would suit me fine ..hell they can set up car showrooms ingame if it makes for better loot.
by working? hmm.. how come I don't get the same money as google, do you get? am I being ripped off? nm. )

I too don't mind more ads as long as I'm able to switch between guns and FAPs without lags.

ads I see are of local corps, so they are already targeting them.
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Truth first THEN maybe go public

As Jan Wellter of MA and Jon Bates CONSTANTLY has been lying to media since Wellters statement in the swedish finance paper Dina pengar on aug 8 where he claims the "average player" MAKES 20 K Ped/month which he withdraws with EUs own cashcard ???? And then Jon Bates repeats the same lies in the videoclip Best Original Game on the games frontpage ?? THATS not a good start to go public with such lies, not to mention all Promises to us players. Shame on you Wellter and MA
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Since it's allready is a AB, Aktie Bolag, it has share holders allready. Going public will not issue any new stocks, or am I totally wrong there? It will only make it possible to trade with the existing 11 000 stocks.
if swedish company law is similar to UK, the company can simply issue more shares. Existing shares can be split in order to maintain existing holding proportions, or the new issue could be a different class with no voting rights.
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At least they'll be more in the public eye now... Will they (MA) sink or swim? Let's wait and see...

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Since it's allready is a AB, Aktie Bolag, it has share holders allready. Going public will not issue any new stocks, or am I totally wrong there? It will only make it possible to trade with the existing 11 000 stocks.
It's been talk about this since 2005 when Bridge entered the arena. (link) But the Equity Issuance didn't happen until 2007 (link), see Bridge Investment Group: Mind Ark
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I'll buy some of this dung and see if it turns into gold...

Could be considered hedging.. the worse the loots are ingame, the better the returns outgame..

Currently I should be getting rich in a blink of an eye if i had the shares already..

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if swedish company law is similar to UK, the company can simply issue more shares. Existing shares can be split in order to maintain existing holding proportions, or the new issue could be a different class with no voting rights.
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GOTHENBURG, SWEDEN--(Marketwire - December 4, 2007) - MindArk PE ("MindArk"), owner of the Entropia Universe online game ("Entropia"), plans an initial public offering (IPO). MindArk is in the process of preparing for its upcoming IPO, which will likely include an offering of newly issued registered shares as well as existing shares.
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