Noob mindforce question

[Immortal]

Originally Posted by Mar73

Maybe I'm wrong but having 10k concentration skills won't let you (concentrate) any faster than a fesh noob

This is correct. Sweat Gathering skills are a misnomer.

[AL Killmore]

So what does Concentration skill do then ? Just gives % to the professions ?
And there's absolutely no way that someone can become a better sweatgatherer ?
That is sad
I guess that will lead me to Plan B - focus and standing in front of small mobs untill my evade skill hits 10k, my life goes up to 300 and there will be no need even to heal myself while sweatgathering because of the solid regeneration

[Alice]

Originally Posted by AL Killmore

So what does Concentration skill do then ? Just gives % to the professions ?

jep

Originally Posted by AL Killmore

And there's absolutely no way that someone can become a better sweatgatherer ?

skill wise more likely in evade and HP

but you might change tactics
tactical team sweating tends to work quite good

Originally Posted by AL Killmore

I guess that will lead me to Plan B - focus and standing in front of small mobs untill my evade skill hits 10k, my life goes up to 300 and there will be no need even to heal myself while sweatgathering because of the solid regeneration

well, basically, that has 2 problems

first, after a while of hitting you, the mob doesn't give any evade skills anymore afaik
so, you gotta change mobs after a while i guess

second, the HP regeneration was changed, so it isn't a firm % of the max HP anymore
dunno if anyone figured out how much it actually is though
could still be enough to leave fapping while sweating at 300 HP ^^
gl getting it that much HP without coolness, combat sense and commando btw

[Immortal]

Originally Posted by AL Killmore

So what does Concentration skill do then ? Just gives % to the professions ?
And there's absolutely no way that someone can become a better sweatgatherer ?
That is sad
I guess that will lead me to Plan B - focus and standing in front of small mobs untill my evade skill hits 10k, my life goes up to 300 and there will be no need even to heal myself while sweatgathering because of the solid regeneration

Think of it as a dole check. (just more work required for less money).

Originally Posted by Alice

gl getting it that much HP without coolness, combat sense and commando btw

Hmm I think i'd be impressed if a sweating noob even had 100 health

[Redster]

Concentration is one of the skill requirements to use a wormhole chip. Also I believe Bravado, Psychotropy and Psyche. Not sure if there are any others or not.

[AL Killmore]

So what can be considered "maximum effective equipment" for an eco sweat gatherer ?

I believe it's the Potent focus chip and maxed FAP-5 (no armor for eco reasons). Yet FAP-5 requires lots of medic skills to beat TT-Vivo and it's pointles to use it before reaching at least 8-10 HP/use.

Everything else is mob and location of choice, appropriate weapon of skill + fancy sweatgathering tactics (and plenty of free time to waste)

[Alice]

Originally Posted by AL Killmore

So what can be considered "maximum effective equipment" for an eco sweat gatherer ?

I believe it's the Potent focus chip and maxed FAP-5 (no armor for eco reasons). Yet FAP-5 requires lots of medic skills to beat TT-Vivo and it's pointles to use it before reaching at least 8-10 HP/use.

Everything else is mob and location of choice, appropriate weapon of skill + fancy sweatgathering tactics (and plenty of free time to waste)

the best eco setup a sweat can have is pretty much nothing
but a guy/gal behind him who focus and heals him :P

but the whole thing depends

say, if you like team sweating chicken with 3-6 ppl
once a team member falls below 50% of HP, another one shoots the chicken to be attacked
and so on, til chicken dry, then its killed
in that case the eco setup would just be a m2100 and some ammo
(that version is cheaper than using healing often enough)
someone who skills focus in team helps

a maxed fap10 takes quite some skills, i doubt that is that much in reach for a newbie (i am not there yet, and i sweated a bit :P)


t1 would do, potent focus would help as well
although with both ways you spend cash unnecessary if you are totally alone
it is usually way more effecient to have a buddy around at least, to share some hits imo and use natural regeneration instead of fap

[AL Killmore]

I do agree that team sweating has it's benefits, but since now i'm a lazy solo sweatgather (hit 1100 skill yesterday). I like it that way, 'cause i can kill and loot the dry mobs without interference. Also focus and healing buddy around is good to have, but the expences are almost the same as when i focus and heal myself, it's just me paying the price (and increasing the skills), and not other person

So far Chikens are not for me, they use too much steroids got to train more for them

[Clonestar]

I agree with Killmore...

The handy part of sweating alone in undies without fap and stuff, is that you get more evade/dodge skill (hopefully) and you don't have to worrie about the decay! (true that without fap you can die a lot!)

Only thing is that some people prefer to sweat the larger mobs with a group... perhaps thats just for the fun part (the more the mar...?!)

[Alice]

team sweating is more for better sweat/hour


in case of solo sweating i guess sweat and run tactic would work if you want basically sweat and less evade

e.g., find slow mob, say snable female young

concentrate, sweat, when it comes to you run away during a sweat beam, when sweat beam ends stop, concentrate, turn around, sweat, turn around and run, etc...
until mob is dry then kill it

you can more or less leave the fap then as well as focus

if you are more after evade but want to kill the mob a low dam mob would be best i guess
say sabakuma young or snable male young

vivo T1 unless fap5 is maxed would work i guess, and a useful focus chip maybe too
i think it would increase the sweat per hour, so it would pay itself
you would get psycho and conc skill that way too you might sell later on