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Mining Depths Data Ores Enmatters Finders

Listing an easy reference guide for:
Depths Range of finders
Depths of enmatters/ores

NB: Please read entire post before posting comments like "your info is wrong" etc

For those wanting to contribute, post or PM the max and min depth you have found certain ores&enmatters and/or with what finder (depth more important), and I will update the list, to be used as an easy reference guide for those getting into mining and/or those wanting to know what type of finder is most likely will get them the desired mineral. To make it easier, i have listed minerals/ores you can not find with a certain finder (to extent of EF player's knowledge) Will update list over time: thank you for the contributions so far!.

NB: I prefer exact figures, but approximations are ok
Please note this list evolves+updated regularly - there will be errors in max depths and 'what you can't find' - this is intentional!

In the beginning I tried not to assume a finder can detect certain minerals if i have no proof, however from data sourced in this thread some conclusions:
Deeper finders find a wider range of minerals.
Minerals have definite starting depths - the distribution of their depths varies with location.
There may be an optimum depth required to search for a certain mineral, depending on location, and you can gear your finder to that depth.
Finder depths are based on a bell-curve for number_of_finds vs
This is shown collected from PkmX's thread. The effective range of finder, in general, can be assumed to be ±200 the average depth. This post will be updated if certain finder's are found to have a broader confidence range, However 95% of claims will be found with ±200 of the finder depth. This applies equally for enmatter as for ore.
Quick Summary
1. Finders have a limited depth range, where most finds with the finder will be located within ±200m
2. Ores/Enamatters have various minimum depths, but max depths are suspected at 1000m for all enmatters/ores (VU 9.2 and below)
3. A shallow finder that finds lyst does not necessarily mean a deep finder used in the same area will find lyst.
The rarest of ores have a very small range of finds in a location, as well as beginning from 600/700/800/900m. Your own testing will reveal what you can find and where.

Ore Finders

Ziplex Z1 OreSeeker (TT finder)
Average Search Depth: 204m
Depth Range: 6m-560m
What you can't find: Adomasite, Azzurdite
Dianum Durulium Erdorium Kanerium Kirtz Langotz Maganite Morpheus Petonium Platinum Quantium Rugaritz Terrudite Tridenite Valurite Xeremite Zanderium

OF-101
Average Search Depth: 263.7m
Depth Range: 5-610
Notes: Ancient data posted by eluqqa show 5m min depth, however this was b4 the z1 existed - this agrees with recent data collected where the finds can be ±300m, so i have added it)
What you can't find:
Adomasite, Azzurdite Dianum Durulium Gold Himi Ignisium Kanerium Kirtz Langotz Lanorium Maganite Morpheus Petonium Platinum Quantium Rugaritz Terrudite Tridenite Valurite Xeremite Zanderium

Ziplex Z5 OreSeeker (L), PaySafe Orefinder(L)
Average Search Depth: 303.5
Depth Range: 123-493

OF-102
Average Search Depth: 323.4
6-606m

OF-103
Average Search Depth: 363.2
16-435m

OF-210(L)
Average Search Depth: 383.1

OF-104
Average Search Depth: 432.9

Ziplex Z10 OreSeeker (L)
Average Search Depth: 403

OF-211(L)
Average Search Depth: 472.6
Depth Range: 82-919
What hasn't been found with this finder:
Kirtz Morpheus Platinum Rugaritz Tridenite Zanderium

Ziplex Z15 OreSeeker (L)
Average Search Depth: 477.6

OF 105:
Average Search Depth: 522.4
Depth Range: 122-968
What hasn't been found with this finder: Zanderium

Z-20
Average Search Depth: 552.3
Depth Range: 233m-1000m
What hasn't been found with this finder: Morpheus Rugaritz Zanderium

TK-120(L)
Average Search Depth: 701.5
424-1000m (humm might have to update that minimum depth lol)
Assumed you can find everything as max depth=1000m

TK-220(L)
Average Search Depth: 776.1
533-1000m
Assumed you can find everything as max depth=1000m

TK-320(L)
Average Search Depth: 850.8
533-1000m
Assumed you can find everything as max depth=1000m. And spacecraft

Enmatter finders:

TT Enmatter finder Ju10
Average Search Depth: 204m
5m-443m
What hasn't been found with this finder: Azur Binary, Devil's Dunkel Ferrum Henren Lumis V/Spores

MF-101
Average Search Depth: 263.7
What hasn't been found with this finder: Binary, Dunkel Ferrum Henren Lumis V/Spores

Ziplex Ju25 MatterSeeker (L)
Average Search Depth: 303.5
Range: 10m-652m
What hasn't been found with this finder: Binary, Dunkel Ferrum Henren Lumis V/Spores

MF-102
Average Search Depth: 323.4
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I remember finding Dunkel a long time ago, ...before I had bought an MF-103. So it should be able to be found with MF-102, possibly 101. Only found it once though.
Maybe in the same basket as Eluqqa's 5m Belk before the introduction of (L) finders. Without depth though not possible to know whether it would be re-findable

MF-103
Average Search Depth: 363.2

Ju40(L)
Average Search Depth: 403.0
???-???
What hasn't been found with this finder: Binary Dunkel Ferrum Henren V/Spores

MF-211(L)
Average Search Depth: 472.6
Depth Range: 10-875
What hasn't been found with this finder: Binary Dunkel V/Spores

Ju55(L)
Average Search Depth: 477.6
Depth Range 248-801m
What hasn't been found with this finder: Dunkel Ferrum

Tik-200
Average Search Depth: 552.3
Depth Range 285-900
What hasn't been found with this finder: nothing (thanks ceepee)

MF-212(L)
Average Search Depth: 592.0
Depth Range: ~339-944
You can find all enmatters with this finder.

Tik-300
Average Search Depth: 626.9
Depth Range 317-1000m
You can find all enmatters with this finder.

MF-213(L)
Average Search Depth: 631.8
Depth Range: 416-1000m
Assumed you can find everything.

Tik-400(L)
Average Search Depth: 701.5
Depth Range: 400m?-1000m
You can find all enmatters with this finder.

Tik-500(L)
Average Search Depth: 776.1
Depth Range: 510-1000m
Assumed you can find everything.

Mt-1000
Average Search Depth: 850.8
Depth Range: 589-1000m
Assumed you can find everything.

Customized MF-213
Average Search Depth: 850.8
Depths 689-1000m
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Customized MF-213 ... what you can't find ... nothing
Known Depth Range of Ores
Adomasite 490-922
Alferix 242-881
Azzurdite 450-827
Belkar 50m-1000 (old data from eluqqa with 5m, though 50m i felt was the absolute lowest for belk now -found 24-3-8)
Blaus 52m-943 (9m reported elsewhere)
Caldorite 226m-998m
Cobalt 100-752
Copper 146-892
Cumbriz 164-992
Dianum 290-969
Durulium 280-1000
Erdorium 302-970
Frigulite 240-855
Ganganite 165-950
Gazzurdite 138-1000m
Gold 560-973
Himi 131-671
Ignisium 297-814m
Iron 169-908m
Kanerium 386-1000
Kirtz 741m-???
Langotz 592-796
Lanorium 282m-733
Lysterium 6m-1000
Maganite 610-715
Megan 245-842
Morpheus 1000m
Narcanisum 95m-1000
Niksarium 231m-939m
Petonium 544-650m
Platinum 696m-1000
Quantium 401-700
Redulite 926-1000
Rugaritz 758-960
Terrudite 700m-879
Tridenite 735m
Valurite 739-1000m
Vesperdite 876-1000 (thx Skateboard T, Cyco)
Xeremite 740-1000 (thx cuga, cyco)
Zanderium 767-1000m (thx overburn)
Zinc 89-1000
Acid Root, Alice Angelic Ares Azur Binary, Blood Moss, Cave Sap, Devil's
Dunkel Ferrum Garcen G/molecules Henren Lumis Lyta Mage Melchi Solis
Sweetstuff Typo V/Spores

Known Depth Range of Enmatters
Acid Root 166-915
Alicenies Gel 5-887
Angelic grit 207-1000m
Ares head 359-884
Azur 416-900
Binary Fluid 600-1000m
Blood Moss 126-950
Cave Sap 355-966
Devil's Tail 430-827
Dunkel particle 581-944
Ferrum Nuts 698-1000
Force Nexus 43-982m
Garcen grease ~85m-1000m
Growth molecules 265m-960m
Henren Stems 521-973
Lumis Leach 420-914
Lytairian dust 137m-1000m
Magerian mist 200m-1000m
Melchi water 24m-1000m
Oil 3-1000m
Solis beans 358m-924
Sweetstuff 94-848
Typonolic steam 89m-956
Vegetation Spores 425m-940

Sorted by Starting Depths
Choose a finder with an average depth above the starting depth of an ore/enmatter for a reasonable chance to find it.

Ore Classes
Type I
Belkar 50
Blaus 9
Cobalt 100
Lysterium 6
Narcanisum 95
Zinc 89
Type II
Copper 146
Ganganite 165
Gazzurdite 138
Himi 131
Iron 169

Type III
Alferix 274
Caldorite 226
Cumbriz 224
Dianum 290
Durulium 280
Erdorium 302
Frigulite 240
Ignisium 297
Lanorium 325
Megan 245
Niksarium 231

Type IV
Azzurdite 450
Kanerium 407
Quantium 448

Type V
Adomasite 490
Gold stone 560
Petonium 544

Type VI
Langotz 592
Maganite 610
Terrudite 700

Type VI
Kirtz 741
Platinum 758
Rugaritz 758
Tridenite 735
Valurite 739
Xeremite 740
Zanderium 767

Type VII
Morpheus 1000
Redulite 926
Vesperdite 876

Enmatter Classes
Type I Findable with any finder, including unmaxed TT
Alicenies Liquid 73
Blood Moss 126
Garcen grease 85
Lytairian dust 137
Melchi water 24
Oil 3
Force Nexus 63
Sweetstuff 94
Typonolic steam 89
Acid Root 166

Type II

Angelic grit 207
Magerian mist 200
Growth molecules 265

Type III
Ares head 359
Azur 347
Cave Sap 355
Solis beans 358

Type IV
Devil's Tail 430
Lumis Leach 420
Vegetation Spores 425

Type V
Henren Stems 521

Type VI
Binary Fluid 600
Dunkel particle 581m

Type VII
Ferrum Nuts 698m

Strange Groupings: is there commonness?
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Blausarium 9
Lysterium 6
Narcanisum 95
Dianum 290
Durulium 280
Erdorium 302
Ignisium 297
Lanorium 325
Niksarium 231
Kanerium 407
Quantium 448
Petonium 544
Zanderium 767

Elements
Cobalt 100
Zinc 89
Copper 146
Iron 169
Gold 560
Platinum 758

-ite
Ganganite 165
Gazzurdite 138
Caldorite 226
Frigulite 240
Azzurdite 450
Adomasite 490
Maganite 610
Terrudite 700
Tridenite 735
Valurite 739
Xeremite 740
Redulite 926
Vesperdite 876

-z
Cumbriz 224
Langotz 592
Kirtz 741
Rugaritz 758

???
Belkar 50
Himi rock 131
Alferix 274
Megan 245
Morpheus 1000



Alferix, Belkar, Blaus, Caldorite, Adomasite, Azzurdite
Cobalt Copper Cumbriz Dianum Durulium Erdorium Frigulite Ganganite
Gazzurdite Gold Himi Ignisium Iron Kanerium Kirtz Langotz Lanorium
Lysterium Maganite Megan Morpheus Narcanisum Niksarium Petonium
Platinum Quantium Rugaritz Terrudite Tridenite Valurite Xeremite Zanderium Zinc

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i've got a great minimum depth...i found IV blood moss at 350M and vigitative spores at 425M
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found lyst at 1000m with Z20
alice & oil at 1000m with tik 200/400

with Tik400 i would say 340-1000m

Z20 is about 270-1000

Z-20
Range: 270m-1000m
(caldo, belkar, blaus, adomasite, lyst, gazz, quant, narc, cumb.. have really found all ores besides the rare ones :P)

Enmatter finders:
Tik-400(L) 340m-1000m
All enmatter but not dunkel, henren.. and maybe some more..


Ores
Alferix 300-750m
Belkar 83m-950m+
Blaus 230m-850
Caldorite-300m-600m
Adomasite 490-680m
Azzurdite 450-600
Cobalt 100-740
Copper 300-500
Cumbriz 430-760
Dianum 450-810
Durulium 280-700
Erdorium 400-600
Frigulite 240-650
Ganganite stone 600-950
Gazzurdite stone 300-850
Gold stone ???
Himi 460-630
Ignisium 350-600m
Iron 250-700m
Kanerium 450-800m
Kirtz ???
Langotz ???
Lanorium ???
Lysterium 6m-1000m
Maganite ???-???
Megan 500-700m
Morpheus ???
Narcanisum stone 113m-660?
Niksarium 560-700m
Petonium ???
Platinum ???
Quantium 500-700m
Rugaritz ???
Terrudite ???
Tridenite ???
Valurite ???
Xeremite ???
Zanderium ???
Zinc stone 250-700

Enmatters
Oil 17-1000m
Nexus 130-400
Acid Root 200-900
Angelic grit 400-800
Ares head 400-700
Azur 500-900
Binary Fluid 600-950
Blood Moss 350m-950
Cave Sap 500-600
Devil's Tail 430-700
Dunkel particle ???
Ferrum Nuts ~700m
Garcen grease 138m-700
Growth molecules 300m-960m
Henren Stems ???
Lumis Leach 500-700
Lytairian dust 200m-800
Magerian mist 200m-950
Melchi water 100m-700
Solis beans 358m-700
Sweetstuff never found.. ^^
Typonolic steam 300m-700
Vegatation Spores 425m-940

well.. thats what i found.. mostly with Z20/OF-105 & Tik400

can check better when i get back home =) @ school now :P

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looked through some global screenies of myself:

Ganganite: 547m, 627m
Lyst: 620m
Caldo: 461m, 298m, 521m
Blaus: 440m
belkar: 385m, 523m
Gold: 807m
copper: 534m, 378m
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Belkar found at 1000m
Duru found at 1000m
Lyst found at 1000m
Gazz found at 1000m

Expect more shitty finds from me.

Depth is a joke, a smokecreen to make you feel better. The fact is that equipment plays the central role.


Example:
OF101 - cant find ruga
OF105 - can find ruga once every 5000 bombs if you happen to be in the ruga area and be lucky enough.
Tk220 - find ruga every 100 bombs if you are in ruga area and there is ruga around to be found. Which translates into finding ruga every 1000 bombs if you mine in ruga areas only.

I finally figured out what are skills good for: To max equpment. Skills have nothing to do with how big your claims are. In fact the more skillfull you are the less hofs you will get. As soon as you chip out you hit uber or maybe multiple ubers.
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Sooo.... Oil can found at almost all deeps, from 17 m to 1000m!

That look like for me better then go mining, because the most thing are realy deep
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I would just like to point out that i HAVE found bloodmoss with the tt finder So i have to say that you can find anything with any finder it seems, it's just damn rare to find anything good with the lower ones.
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I would just like to point out that i HAVE found bloodmoss with the tt finder So i have to say that you can find anything with any finder it seems, it's just damn rare to find anything good with the lower ones.
Blood Moss I think i found that with TT, and i was v surprised finding Niks + ignisium with them. While i do not doubt the possibility... i think finding gold with TT would be impressive (and believe me i've tried )
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Have found Azzurdite with z20 finder
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Range: 340?m-1000m
What you can't find with this finder: Azzurdite Himi Kirtz Langotz Maganite Morpheus Petonium Platinum Rugaritz Tridenite Valurite Xeremite Zanderium
Very interesting post.
However, the bold minerals i found with z20.
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