Zanderium claim positions....

[Ace Flyster]

Originally Posted by sunny

They are found from a lvl of finder and the better finder u have the more often u get these claims. So depth on a finder has nothing to do with what ores u can find

Contradiction there, or mistake, the higher level finder you go the deeper the depth of the finder. They kinda come together

Rgds

Ace

[InDaHouse]

Originally Posted by Ace Flyster

Contradiction there, or mistake, the higher level finder you go the deeper the depth of the finder. They kinda come together

Rgds

Ace

Ace has a point....

[Cuga]

Originally Posted by InDaHouse

Ace has a point....

No he does not.

Its about the finders and not the depth.

Example:
TK220 finds gold 3x in 100 bombs
OF105 find gold 1x in 1000 bombs

Gold is found at around 700m, so both finders can reach that depth with ease.

So forget about depth entirely, it is about finders. Depth is just a smokescreen. More expensive finders have higher probability finding rare ores then cheaper ones. End of story.

I found Ruga, Xere, Langotz, Gold... with TK220 on depths easily reachable with other finders but other finders always failed to find those ores (except occassional gold find) so I know what I'm talking about.

Same goes for Zanderium. If you mine for it using OF105 or even OF212L you will have very hard time finding any.

[sunny]

Originally Posted by Cuga

No he does not.

Its about the finders and not the depth.

Example:
TK220 finds gold 3x in 100 bombs
OF105 find gold 1x in 1000 bombs

Gold is found at around 700m, so both finders can reach that depth with ease.

So forget about depth entirely, it is about finders. Depth is just a smokescreen. More expensive finders have higher probability finding rare ores then cheaper ones. End of story.

I found Ruga, Xere, Langotz, Gold... with TK220 on depths easily reachable with other finders but other finders always failed to find those ores (except occassional gold find) so I know what I'm talking about.

Same goes for Zanderium. If you mine for it using OF105 or even OF212L you will have very hard time finding any.

1 person that understands what I said.

But GL to all of U trying to find zand and other very rare ores with the of105 because it gets claims over 700 depth

[Jason J. T.]

Just to cheer up those who cannot afford tk220 or other expensive tools. I had Langotz with my 105... Maybe coincidence but I still think you can find rare ones with it if you have skills high enough. Maybe not so often, but still.

[Slapnuts]

Originally Posted by Cuga

No he does not.

Its about the finders and not the depth.

Example:
TK220 finds gold 3x in 100 bombs
OF105 find gold 1x in 1000 bombs

Gold is found at around 700m, so both finders can reach that depth with ease.

Why does the Tk220 find it more often? Whats the difference between the finders that causes this?

Clue: the answer is the av depth of the finder being closer to the av depth of Gold

[Cuga]

Originally Posted by Slapnuts

Why does the Tk220 find it more often? Whats the difference between the finders that causes this?

Clue: the answer is the av depth of the finder being closer to the av depth of Gold

Good question: PRICE! It cost you about 20x more money to drop a bomb (bomb price not included) then with 211L for example. Decay is MA's best friend.

Do not use average depth as an argument as I already told you that I find rare ores on depts easily accessible to OF105. Yet OF105 sucks at finding rare ores.

Depth is an illusion. Take it from someone who is finding lyst on 1000m and gold on 700m.

[aridash]

Originally Posted by Cuga

Do not use average depth as an argument as I already told you that I find rare ores on depts easily accessible to OF105. Yet OF105 sucks at finding rare ores.

Depth is an illusion. Take it from someone who is finding lyst on 1000m and gold on 700m.

nope, dont get it.

Originally Posted by Cuga

Example:
TK220 finds gold 3x in 100 bombs
OF105 find gold 1x in 1000 bombs

Gold is found at around 700m, so both finders can reach that depth with ease.

OF105 average depth is 522m, TK220 average depth is 776m. if gold is found at 700 then it follows that the TK220 is going to find it alot more often than the OF105. maybe different finders have different shaped curves either side of the average, but your own example proves that increased average depth = more finds of rarer ores.

It is an average after all, you are not always probing the full possible depth.

[Slapnuts]

Exactly m8.

Perhaps easier to demonstrate with a rough diagram (and it is rough so no need for anyone to correct me to the nearest m!)

Think about it like this Cuga.



This is the very reason they are more expensive. If the Zip 220's average search depth was reduced to 300m in the next VU what do you think would happen to the price??

[Cuga]

I understand your theory. But you do not understand mine.

I'm claiming that MA is deliberately capping lower end finders when it comes to rare ores even though they can find them. The probablity of OF105 finding gold was much much bigger when there were no better finders. MA nerfed it to make people waste more money on uber-expensive finders. 211L was also a very nice finder for gold but now if you get it once in 20,000 bombs you jump from joy.

It has nothing to do with depth (in my opinion). It has all to do with finder model.

Drop Bomb:
If finder OFF105 then probability of finding gold = "once in a lifetime"
If finder TK320 then probability of finding gold = "screw gold, here is some zanderium for a big spender"
end if
Find depth = "ok, now lets see what did we say on how deep someone can find zanderium?"