Project Amethera

[Bobbygolucky]

Some of you may know that since I started on EU I've run a "noob blog" in noobs corner on EF. Since I've now graduated (in prospecting) I've run out of motivation to keep that going (since I hope that I'm not too much of a noob anymore). I will make the odd update on it but I've decided to move on to a different project.

The aim of this project is for me to develop a mining strategy for Amethera by mapping out what is to be found where across the continent. A basic mining run will be 50 bombs/probes (time is restrictive for me). I will record basic profit/loss on here for the ores and enmatter that I find but I won't take decay and skill gains into account as the main reason for the project is one of research. I'll note any hunting globals on here but not include them in profit/loss - I'll throw in a few screenshots for good measure on the thread.

I will supply exact locations and depth of ALL FINDS on here. I know that this might not be everybodies pleasure but as I've done on the noob thread I've been as honest and up front as possible about my progress and if this thread can help out other players in EU then I'll have achieved personal satisfaction out of it. I'm also of the opinion that the majority of people in EU do not use EF to any great extent - so the ones that do use it get the benefit.

I will keep the thread going until I'm satisfied that I've got a good idea of what to find and where in Amethera - hopefully I'll open up CGA somewhere along the way

Skills

Current levels are Prospector 7, Miner 7, Surveyor 6, Driller 5

Equipment

My current equipment is:

Orefinder - Ziplex Z20(L) (Maxed)
Matterfinder - Ziplex Ju55(L) (Maxed)
Oreminer - OM104
Matterdriller - MD104 (also carry TT driller for small claims).

I've also got a Ziplex Tik200 (L) and a OF105 in storage that I might take out on the odd run - I'll make this clear at the start of each results post.

Strategy/Tactics

I try all sorts of different things. I normally rebomb decent ore claims (before I extract). I sometimes rebomb enmatter claims but not as often. I carpet bomb, random bomb do a bombing run from point A to point B. Repeating what I've said above - a normal run will be 50 bombs and sometimes 50 probes. Since my aim is to effectively "map" Amethera in terms of ore then the larger area I can bomb the better. I don't tend to use amps although I may consider using them at some point if I feel that I can get a high enough hit % to justify them.

Resources

Obviously this forum is a font of knowledge for anybody on EU. At the moment I literally record my claims with a pen and paper - I run full screen mode so I've not used NRF yet but I might give in and give it a go at some point. Entropedia, PEASS, Entropia Tools and Entropia Directory are my other major sources of info - and of course the Southern Cross Training Center.

I'm fully open to advice from anybody willing to offer it, either on here or by pm.

Bob

[Bobbygolucky]

Profit/loss

Prices calculated from PEAuction.

Run #1 - Ore -0.34PED, Enmatter -17.11PED, Total -17.45PED
Run #2 - Ore -8.41PED, Enmatter -0.11PED, Total -8.41PED
Run #3 - Ore -8.69PED, Enmatter +3.28PED, Total -5.41PED
Run #4 - Ore -6.94PED, Enmatter +8.28PED, Total +1.34PED
Run #5 - Ore -6.45PED, Enmatter -10.08PED, Total -16.53PED
Run #6 - Ore -25.54PED, Enmatter -13.80PED, Total -42.07PED
Run #7 - Ore -5.22PED, Enmatter +11.57PED, Total +6.35PED
Run #8 - Ore +59.49PED, Enmatter -8.65PED, Total +50.84PED
Run #9 - Ore -24.93PED, Enmatter +25.27PED, Total +0.34PED
Run #10 - Ore -0.03PED, Enmatter -0.74PED, Total -0.77PED
Run #11 - Ore -23.15PED, Enmatter -10.49PED, Total -33.64PED
Run #12 - Ore -4.72PED, Enmatter +17.02PED, Total +12.03PED
Run #13 - Ore +23.89PED, Enmatter -9.20PED, Total +14.69PED
Run #14 - Ore -16.41PED, Enmatter -2.08PED, Total -18.49PED
Run #15 - Ore +13.45PED, Enmatter -3.13PED, Total +10.32PED
Run #16 - Ore +5.51PED, Enmatter +6.03PED, Total +11.54PED
Run #17 - Ore -16.54PED, Enmatter +3.99PED, Total -12.55PED
Run #18 - Ore -3.62PED, Enmatter -8.08PED, Total -11.70PED
Run #19 - Ore +28.47PED, Enmatter +73.60PED, Total +102.70PED
Run #20 - Ore +341.33PED, Enmatter +22.87PED, Total +364.20PED

Grand total +407.33PED

Resources Found

Ore

Adomasite
Alferix
Belkar
Blausarium
Caldorite
Cobalt
Copper
Cumbriz
Dianum
Durulium
Erdorium
Frigulite
Ganganite
Gazzurdite
Gold
Ignisium
Iron
Kanerium
Lanorium
Lysterium
Megan
Narcanisum
Niksarium
Zinc

Enmatter

Acid Root
Alicenies Liquid
Angelic Grit
Ares Head
Azur Pearls
Binary Fluid
Cave Sap
Crude Oil
Devil's Tail
Force Nexus
Garcen Grease
Growth Molecules
Magerian Mist
Melchi Water
Solis Beans
Sweetstuff
Typonolic Steam

[Bobbygolucky]

Run #1

General Location - Wolverine to TI City (Landgrab Area 01).

Bombs/probes 50/50
Unamped

Resources (Totals) Prices from PEAuction for unrefined material.

Ore

Copper 33 - 5.28PED - 102% - 5.39PED
Dianum 6 - 7.50PED - 145% - 10.88PED
Belkar 1193 - 23.86PED - 121% - 28.87PED
Lysterium 435 - 4.35PED - 104% - 4.52PED

Total 49.66PED

Basic profit/loss -0.34PED

Enmatter

Typonolic 11 - 2.40PED - 138% - 3.31PED
Alicenies 51 - 2.55PED - 115% - 2.93PED
Growth Molecules - 1 - 0.47PED - 101% - 0.48PED
Crude Oil - 115 - 1.15PED - 102% - 1.17PED

Total 7.89PED

Basic profit/loss -17.11PED

Total profit/loss of run -17.45PED

Ore finds

Copper V 21402, 17463, 391
Dianum IV 21756, 17677, 354
Belkar IX 21211, 17211, 262
Copper III 21521, 17290, 578
Belkar III 21481, 17259, 439
Dianum V 21429, 19180, 385
Dianum III 20091, 20939, 472
Lysterium III 20453, 21080, 399
Lysterium IV 20232, 21067, 357
Belkar V 19926, 20873, 404
Belkar III 19533, 20712, 333
Belkar V 19422, 20723, 511

Enmatter finds

Typonolic II 21623, 17610, 470
Alicenies II 21824, 18017, 508
Growth Molecules II 22782, 17701, 533
Alicenies II 20753, 19301, 309
Typonolic II 20109, 20985, 456
Oil II 20451, 21102, 521
Oil II 20427, 21119, 706
Typonolic III 19372, 20708, 612
Alicenies III 19057, 20805

Notes

I chose Wolverine as I think that I've only been there once since I gained the TP. Ran north towards TI City and decided to give Landgrab Area 01 a try (Thorifoid). Managed to fend off one watcher but got killed by another one. I then realised that I'd still got my 6A plates on from hunting drones earlier - doh! Decided to run round the eastern side of the LA next time and the first bomb that I dropped running away from the TP hit a XI Belkar that dominated the profit/loss of my run.

Got killed by a Formicacida on the way round and revived in the Thorifoid area again but managed to run in between that and the Scaboreas area to get to TI City.

Overall, the run would have been fine had I just stuck to ores! My mission is nicely underway having found a couple of Dianum claims which I've only found a few times before.

Might do another run tonight although I'm tempted to do a run I've been thinking about for a while on Eudoria (which won't be recorded on here).

Bob

[Bobbygolucky]

Run #2

General Location - Sakura City to Palms Corner via LA14/LA17.

Bombs/probes 41/43 (see below)

Unamped

Resources (Totals) Prices from PEAuction - had to refine during the trip, hence the split items.

Ore

Zinc Stone 30 - 3.00PED - 107% - 3.21PED
Zinc Ingots - 18.30PED - 107% - 19.58PED
Lyst Stone - 1 - 0.01PED - 103% - 0.01PED
Lysterium Ingots 49 - 1.47PED - 103% - 1.51PED
Narcanisum Ingots 23 - 5.52PED - 150% - 8.28PED

Total 32.59PED

Basic profit/loss -8.41PED

Enmatter

Oil - 604 - 12.08PED - 102% - 12.32PED
Alicenies Gel 6 - 0.60PED - 119% - 0.71PED
Alicenies Liquid 1 - 0.05PED - 115% - 0.05PED
Growth Molecules - 11 - 5.17PED - 101% - 5.22PED
Crude Oil - 64 - 0.64PED - 102% - 0.65PED
Garcen Grease - 21 - 2.10PED - 116% - 2.44PED

Total 21.39PED

Basic profit/loss -0.11PED

Total profit/loss of run -8.52PED

Ore finds

Narcanisum V 22744, 6427, 693
Narcanisum III 22276, 6742, 566
Zinc V 21665, 8101, 605
Zinc IX 21135, 8719, 353
Lysterium III 20975, 8781, 487
Zinc III 20071, 8971, 532
Zinc III 20239, 9563, 595
Zinc IV 18880, 9762, 419

Hits 8 (20%)

Enmatter finds

Oil III 22809, 6328
Oil III 22163, 6916, 438
Growth Molecules IV 22334, 7034, 508
Oil III 22389, 7384, 281
Oil II 22373, 7431, 440
Alicenies II 21421, 8320, 482
Growth Molecules IV 20886, 8805, 362
Oil II 20479, 8690, 439
Oil VII 20245, 9618, 323
Oil II 20087, 9494, 454
Growth Molecules III 19622, 9611, 440
Garcen IV 17553, 9824, 587

Hits 12 (28%)

Notes

Another area I've hardly been to since getting the TP is Sakura. I planned the route through LA14 towards Nate in the hope that I would be able to take on big Berycled if needed. I got in the LA and was immediately attacked by a stalker which I dispatched with a bit of fapping. The start of the run was terrible - about 6NRFs before I hit anything.

Managed to safely make it through the LA to Nate and carried on through Gradivore territory towards Palms. I cut the run short because I was asked on a Beacon Run which I decided would be better than the mining.

Overall having looked at the figures it wasn't too bad. Much better on Enmatter this time and despite the really low hit % on ore the IX Zinc saved me.

Bob

[Shard-Angel]

Hi.

Are you using any software to track your data like NeoMap?

Keep up the good work!

[Bobbygolucky]

Originally Posted by Shard-Angel

Hi.

Are you using any software to track your data like NeoMap?

Keep up the good work!

Hi mate

At the moment I'm using a trusty pen and paper. Part of the reason for doing this is that I mined a bit while running my tp's when I started and I've got various things in my inventory (like Ganganite) that I can't remember where I found them because I wasn't keeping notes.

I've downloaded NeoMap, EUMap(??) and NRF but never had the chance to transfer my data across (plus I only started recording depth when I started this project). I did try to manually input some stuff to NRF but couldn't work out how to do it (crap with IT). As I'm reluctant to run in windowed mode I can't really use the automated feature of NRF although I might give it a go sometime.

I've also printed off the wall charts off JaxMap in A3 so that I can start to visually record areas in which things are found (similar to the PEAss mob locations map).

Good luck to you too

Bob

[Nor Alien]

Gl to you and your endevour's!!!

[Bobbygolucky]

Run #3

General Location - Omegaton West Habitat to Akmuul Island LA07/OLA14.

Bombs/probes 50/50

Unamped

Resources (Totals) Prices from PEAuction.

Ore

Caldorite 37 - 6.29PED - 129% - 8.11PED
Cumbriz 24 - 3.60PED - 115% - 4.14PED
Blausarium 73 - 2.92PED - 108% - 3.15PED
Belkar - 70 - 1.40PED - 121% - 1.69PED
Zinc - 53 - 5.30PED - 107% - 5.67PED
Erdorium - 3 - 1.20PED - 122% - 1.46PED
Ganganite - 41 - 4.92PED - 114% - 5.61PED
Lysterium - 1115 - 11.15PED - 103% - 11.48PED

Total 41.31PED

Basic profit/loss -8.69PED

Enmatter

Garcen - 20 - 2.00PED - 118% - 2.36PED
Oil - 276 - 2.76PED - 102% - 2.82PED
Typonolic - 14 - 2.10PED - 138% - 2.90PED
Angelic - 17 - 8.50PED - 121% - 10.29PED
Lytarian - 16 - 3.04PED - 132% - 4.01PED
Alicenies - 91 - 4.55PED - 115% - 5.23PED
Magerian - 2 - 0.50PED - 133% - 0.67PED

Total 28.28PED

Basic profit/loss +3.28PED

Total profit/loss of run -5.41PED

Ore finds

Caldorite V 10693, 9811, 502
Cumbriz III 10775, 9691, 340
Caldorite IV 10846, 8909, 380
Cumbriz IV 10890, 8816, 437
Zinc III 10310, 4353, 496
Zinc III 10314, 4360, 563
Zinc IV 10280, 4346, 513
Ganganite III 10294, 4324, 609
Ganganite V 10524, 3771, 575
Lysterium VI 10555, 3316, 439
Lysterium IV 11071, 2745, 322
Lysterium V 11099, 2775, 419
Belkar III 11235, 2435, 460
Erdorium III 11465, 2207, 723
Blausarium III 11433, 2211, 429

Hits 15 (30%)

Enmatter finds

Lytairian III 10853, 8968, 353
Garcen IV 10888, 8930, 595
Typonolic II 10921, 8678, 572
Angelic VII 10923, 5958, 464
Angelic IV 10511, 5436, 370
Typonolic III 10543, 5404, 494
Lytairian II 10368, 5281, 434
Lytairian II 10292, 5144, 408
Oil II 10061, 4644, 553
Magerian II 10255, 4453, 573
Alicenies II 10239, 4299, 558
Oil IV 11141, 2782, 342
Alicenies IV 11181, 2560, 431
Alicenies II 11171, 2536, 436
Alicenies II 11284, 2455, 522

Hits 15 (30%)

Notes

I tried mining in LA07 a few weeks back but it got cut short when I tried to shoot a Fungoid. I decided that it was possible for me to run through the LA and avoid mobs to mine it and on to OLA14 with big Berycled that I know that I can handle.

I started off ok, a few finds in LA07 but as I went further and further south the Bristle spawn got denser and denser. I've shot Bristles up to provider before on TI but didn't fancy my chances against the higher maturities here. I actually ended up getting killed by another Fungoid as I tried vainly picking my way through the mobs but as luck would have it I revived in OLA14 which is where I intended going through on the way to Akmuul. I think that I need to get some electric plates before I go here again to at least give me a chance to shoot through the Bristles.

While I was there, I had an interesting meeting. There was a green dot at the revival so I politely said "Hi" and got a reply back in orange writing!


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Anyway, I carried on south to Akmuul, as you'll see from the results I pretty much broke even and found my Ganganite which I think I've only found once and didn't record where it was! I'd guess with the 30% hit-rate, even though I didn't get anything that large that it would have probably have been profitable with a 101 or 102 amp.

I'd still got excess bombs/probes when I got to Akmuul (as a result of not being able to mine LA07 properly) so I carried on a bit further south to see what I'd find there. Overall I'd guess that it's one of my most colourful mining efforts with 15 different types of ore/enmatter found.

Anyway, good luck out there guys.

Bob

[Shard-Angel]

Hi.

If you ever do run in Windowed mode (which I recommend - makes accessing web and utilities/spreadsheets easier - also runs EU faster) - do try NeoMap - very nice if you get a heirarchy of folders/subfolders correctly. Then you can toggle On/Off anything and everything as needed. VERY user-friendly and clean way to see data and patterns. (Both Eudoria and Amerthera Maps are available now.)

BTW, I'm assuming the 3rd number is the depth of the find? ie. Narcanisum V 22744, 6427, 693 (where 693 = depth?).

Regards.

[Bobbygolucky]

Originally Posted by Shard-Angel

Hi.

If you ever do run in Windowed mode (which I recommend - makes accessing web and utilities/spreadsheets easier - also runs EU faster) - do try NeoMap - very nice if you get a heirarchy of folders/subfolders correctly. Then you can toggle On/Off anything and everything as needed. VERY user-friendly and clean way to see data and patterns. (Both Eudoria and Amerthera Maps are available now.)

BTW, I'm assuming the 3rd number is the depth of the find? ie. Narcanisum V 22744, 6427, 693 (where 693 = depth?).

Regards.

Yeah - I gonna have to give windowed mode a go I think... I really like full screen though lol! After tonight I think I'm going to start recording NRFs as well - even if I don't get an exact location.

The 3rd number is the depth - tomorrow's results will show that I really stupidly forgot to record depth for enmatter claims - I realised on the very last one!

Btw - not worked it out yet but I think I profitted today

Bob