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View Poll Results: Should miners be given a claim for finding a strange signal
Yes 140 53.44%
No 87 33.21%
Yes, as a miner I have found it frustrating for the ship I picked up to be taken by someone else 60 22.90%
I couldn't care less 37 14.12%
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Old 05-04-2008, 05:59   #41
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As a part-time miner, I had to agree that losing a ship sucks.... Why a deed for the spaceship, it wouldn't be realistic. Instead put in a timer on the spaceship say...30 minutes where only the person who spawn it can claim it. After the timer is over, it free for all to claim. Oh yeah ... make the timer so that it can only be seen by the person who spawn it.

And I also believe the spaceship is spawn by miner despite some stuborn protest from some quaters. (I believe most of those who protest might had nicked a few spaceship themselves and are trying to justify their guilt....) - the evidence is too strong to say it just spawn "dynamicly" like fruit or dung.
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A few weeks ago, was mining. Saw a green dot and said hi. They ask me what a 'strange signel' was and I told them...then they ask me to help.

I did, they had no armor or weapon. I kill the bots, open the hatch and gave him the loot. The loot was a 30+ beacon. Simple, if I go into a PVP area and if I can, your ass is mine, if some noob is trying to learn the game or some uber dumb enough to be mining without guns are armou, then I help.

I have no desire to bring another down to build myself up. I'm very happy on who I am. So...to me...

It's about honor to me, something many here have no clue about..


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I'm not a miner, but voted yes, because it's really sucks. Ships should be picked only by miner who spawned them. And about all this "there is no proof it is spawned by the miner" - ships are shown in the mining section of the hof list, thus it's a miner's loot.

Actually, when I read that "spaceship ethic" thread I couldn't understand at first what those debates all about - because I even had no idea that there could be variant readings about ship origins. Ships are result of mining. Period. If you're not a miner (didn't drop bombs/probs lately) and see a ship, move along.
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Simple, if I go into a PVP area and if I can, your ass is mine, if some noob is trying to learn the game or some uber dumb enough to be mining without guns are armou, then I help.
Of course, your action is very generous against the other players, and I think each of us should follow your example
As for mining without weapon or armor, I do that all the time, except that when on Calypso I carry around vigi set to be able to get to the beacon unharmed if I can Not shooting mobs around actually saves lots of money!
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.. someone mentioned losing ships - so I had to include this 10 second clip.

Nobody loses a ship like my soc mate, A-Bomb.

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ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.
Wait! I didnt know you filmed this, nor did i know you used it for my public humiliation. H8 And a stupid bouncyass smiley cus they are stupid
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I was wondering if you would EVER find this !!

That time you showed me your e-nips .. that was expressed consent to use all footage of you - as I deem necessary

LOL I filmed it ..
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Interesting spaceship spawn lol, they always blow up afterwards too?

Anyway back to the thread, please everyone keep voting so I can have some kind of grounds (or not) to approach MA and see if we can have some of finder thing when we see a strange signal, that gives miners the chance to get to it before some other greedy person gets a hold of it.

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MA seems to have implemented the spawning of spaceships like this on purpose. It is part of the thrill factor that you as a miner suddenly get a strange signal and you know you have to run for it to try and get there first.

It is a bit like hunting/mining in PvP3 or 4. It creates an extra thrill. The unexpected strange signal and the dash for the button on the spacecraft is fully intended as such. The fact that others can do the same contributes to that. It creates the suspence of if you are gonna make it to be the first to push the button. If this was changed and you got a leasurly 30 minutes to loot the spacecraft were would the suspense/thrill be. It would just be another global. Then hunters would start to complain why beacons are not dropping from bots.

And although this sucks bigtime and i feel sorry for you to have experienced this, a support call to MA will most likely result in their default answer. That they are unable to help you. Mayby if you throw it on that your enjoyment of the game was destroyed and if enough people file similar support cases that in the future something gets changed.

Someone mentioned already something similar as that someone looted an uber just next someone else while hunting. That person probably also did not find it funny at all and was also probably green of jealousy. This probably also has happend to enough miners where an other miner got a tower just next to him. But it is according to the rules which MA created for this virtual universe. EU is dynamic as MA says.

What could be improved is that the spaceship would spawn inside the radius of the finder. This would give the miner a better chance and still give the thrill.

I wish you best luck in finding another strange signal soon and being able to loot that spacecraft.

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It's in the ballpark of looting a creature .... if someone else kills it ...why shouldn't you geti t? (...still don't understand why this isn't implemented as it is for pk )

And if you just 'got it' like angel scales/hansidian.... it wouldn't really be much of a point having drones or the ship there.

Unfortunately, there are people who like to ruin the game - and karma goes a long way
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The evidence posted seems to be conclusive that the ship is spawned by the miner.

Perhaps the whole idea is to persuade miners to carry guns/ammo/armour as otherwise you might not be able get to & loot the ship.
This then means there is the temptation to hunt a bit while mining. (decay)

If only the miner who spawned it could loot it, all they would need to do would be lead the bots away from the ship by dying once or twice, and then loot the ship. No ammo used, or decay incurred.
If you know all it takes is someone else to come along and loot it while you are running back to it after dying, you run to it, stop when it's in sight, put your armour on, start those guns blazing, shoot the bots, and loot it. MA get decay.

Personally, if I found a ship not through mining, i would wait a bit, to see if anyone turns up, finder in hand.
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IMHO, it's a bit like seeing a car sitting on the street, motor runing, windows opens,

If you think taking the ship is fair, then I'd guess taking the car is fair. Now, not faulting you or anyone at all. It just seems that the rules in real life don't apply here, and I'm sure that most should not, but common politness should. Just as I would not take a persons car, I'd not take their ship, afterall, the only way it is there is a miner found it, not like rocks, dung, or fruit laying on the ground. The miner droped a bomb or a probe. That cost peds, there was decay on his finder, and there will be ammo and decay on killing the bots. I have to agree, it's like damage with a hunter, they don't want someone running up and stealing a kill, same should apply here.

Now with that being said, some places the rules really don't apply...i.e. PVP area, there about the only rule I follow is I don't try to kill anyone killing a mob, as soons as they are done, I shoot. Now, if I found a ship in PVP, I'd take it, just like I'd try to take the miner. Hell, I'm a miner myself, when I go into PVP I expect to die. And, lol, most of the time I get my expections....

So, just like to see common sense and politness in most areas of the game..


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