Taking a mining discipe to CND

[Indy]

Here is the learning curve of a disciple of mine who just finished his schooling. He did it at CND, with pure ore mining – not a single probe dropped or a shot fired and no amplifiers used. Overall, the outcome was positive – some good profit and it did not take long, about of 10 days, with 2-3 hours of playing each day.

Some raw data first.

Bomb/ Prosp/ Geol / Mining/ TT value / TT total / Notes
100 / 64 / 23 / 59 / 58.06 / 58.06 /
200 / 122 / 55 / 108 / 59.93 / 117.99 /
300 / 174 / 76 / 189 / 107.28 / 225.27 / Global belkar XIV Prospector lvl 1
400 / 227 / 103 / 292 / 155.00 / 380.27 /
500 / 261 / 128 / 338 / 113.62 / 493.89 /
600 / 289 / 157 / 431 / 212.72 / 705.61 / Global ganganite XV
700 / 318 / 188 / 451 / 77.59 / 783.20 / Prospector lvl 2
800 / 349 / 220 / 518 / 203.72 / 986.92 / Global caldorite XIV Global iron XIII
900 / 382 / 243 / 557 / 186.22 / 1173.14 / Global narcanisum XIII
1000 / 417 / 260 / 604 / 150.55 / 1323.14 / Global caldorite XIV
1100 / 435 / 279 / 657 / 148.61 / 1472.30 /
1200 / 451 / 293 / 716 / 150.77 / 1623.07 / Global caldorite XIII Prospector lvl 3
1300 / 468 / 308 / 751 / 78.86 / 1701.95 /
1400 / 488 / 317 / 763 / 42.45 / 1744.40 /
1500 / 504 / 332 / 780 / 45.17 / 1789.57 /
1600 / 522 / 343 / 790 / 21.97 / 1811.54 /
1700 / 533 / 352 / 802 / 45.40 / 1856.94 /
1800 / 550 / 361 / 814 / 44.78 / 1901.72 /
1900 / 569 / 369 / 825 / 46.71 / 1948.43 /
2000 / 593 / 382 / 904 / 385.95 / 2334.38 / HoF iron XVI
2100 / 611 / 395 / 939 / 102.94 / 2447.34 / Prospector lvl 4


To say the least, no effect whatsoever of prospecting skills on the success rate noticed.

Other mining related skills:
Computer 189
Engineering 151
Perception 132
Intelligence 20

Skills due to numerous deaths in the line of duty (for curiosity sake):
Evade 21
Athletics 10
Combat reflexes 9
Courage 6
Alertness 4
Agility 3

Loot (with approximate market %)
TT value Market % Market value
Caldorite 550.46 138 759.63
Blau 92.68 112 103.94
Iron 780.22 118 920.66
Cumb 72.45 124 89.84
Gang 271.44 119 323.01
Zinc 69.00 113 77.97
Lyst 21.93 105 23.03
Belk 148.02 130 192.43
Narc 351.2 142 498.70
Igniz 23.80 142 33.80
Dian 30.50 140 42.7

Total market value: ~ 3065 (approximate)

Total expense: 2100 ped bombs + 40 ped noob mining gear + 45 ped trip to CND and back

Profit: 3065 – 2185 = 880 ped

Deposit distribution:

Small V 1
Modest VI 11
Average VII 26
Medium VIII 20
Ample IX 23
Considerable X 26
Sizeable XI 6
Large XII 0
Abundant XIII 3
Great XIV 3
Substantial XV 1
Significant XVI 1

Total hits 121 out of 2100 bombs dropped. Average rate of success: about 5.8 hits per 100 bombs, with a range from 3 to 10 hits per 100 bombs

It is not exactly clear that going to CND would be a good choice for a beginner. As anyone can see, there was a very good period and then there was a bad period when mining only gave about 45% of return. Should you happen on such a scarce part of the loot cycle, you may end up with hefty losses.

There are some other interesting trends in the data, but I will leave that to you to figure out.

PS. I got an EP-17 ME on his graduation; I expected an OF-105 ME (shrug)

[Phil Surtees]

I don't know much about mining on CND, I don't go there (explaining that would take a new thread)., but that seems like a really low hit rate.

[PkmX]

Interesting, so it may decline those who say it's better to skill up to X level prospector before going to CND, even with low skills you can do fine on CND also.

Gratz to graduation btw!

[Westy]

Nice post, thanks for sharing the info. What this shows is that if you go to CND to drop only 200 or 300 bombs (amped or not) you can pick any of the 3 runs in a row and see what your returns could potentially be.

You could do the 8/9/10th runs and come back down with a nice profit or you could do runs 14/15/16 in a row and come back with empty pockets.

CND is a place where you must do runs to this extent. Though I suspect you would see the same results if you did 7 x 300 bomb trips to CND. Just that you lose in the peds spent on flights.

If you look at the bad patch near the end you can see you need to be able to survive losing 350 ped. So its a good example why going to CND with 2 or 300 ped is a recipe for disaster.