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Old 07-01-2008, 14:37   #1
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Do you think the mining loot system...

In effort to be dynamic and also under the belief that the loot system does in fact try to pay you back to some degree --

Do you think the mining loot system bases the values of your finds partially on the auctions current mark up or the ores in the areas you are mining?
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I'm not sure, but the thought has hit me many times in the past that it seemed like the system is trying to make me break even (not profit) or loose just a few PED using markup.
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I think there are few things that influence your return rate. And I believe in some point that EU is paying back what you spend.... but this is long topic. Anyway, what I believe is important for return rate of mining:

*market need for certain resource (if there was big ATH on let's say narcanisium and it first parts of it got to market the drop rate is smaller)
* holding of resources (if there is such ATH and miner keeps it before selling - for example tower is on CND and miner waits to get all before going down to sell there is no influence, the influence appears when resource gets to the market)
* if you are in the area where you can find copper and ignisium and there was a big hof on copper you are more likely to get ignisium (unless you have low skills and bad seekers), if there was a hof on ignisium you will mainly get copper in this place
* there are areas where some resource can be mined but is rare, if there is a lack of such resource on market it will be mined there, if this resource is in the market in enough quantity it is less likely to find it in place it is rare as it will pop out in major spots for it
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I had (still have) a similar thought:

° It would be logical that a certain ore would drop more (in frequency and or in size) when the market has a lot of orders for that specific kind of ore...

would balance things out.
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Do you think the mining loot system bases the values of your finds partially on the auctions current mark up or the ores in the areas you are mining?
No, I belive MA has this balenced so most crafters can craft things 110%-120%
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i think yes, the current price is considered when mining, and also i woudnt wonder if drop rate was balanced according to current % in auction-so that
MA chosen price is kept +- 2-4%
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Nope.

This is the second thread on this in a month why not post there? :p

I found dunkel twice in 48 hours. I also found a crap load of typo gas - far above alice and melchi that is in the same area, easily accessible etc...
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The main post doesnt refer to the amount of deposits of certain ore types but rather the value of an ore deposit against the auction markup, when the system trys to return your peds.
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Since I unlocked CGA (over a year ago) and the introduction of mining amps around the same time, mining for me has been so bad that I have all but given up.
All but?
Mining equipment is in storage, so I guess I have actually given up mining.
Might get them out again some time, but it won't be any time soon.
I have even been toying with the idea of selling my mining skills & equipment, and using the peds raised to buy skills in other areas.
Then I might get TT finders, and give it another go.

Mining used to be OK for me, returns as mentioned, then it went into a pants stage, and never came out of it.
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The moment I hit CGA I chipped it up 1k and 5 lvls prospecting later I come close to profit every run.
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