Shocking poll (for me at least...)

[Sarah]

Originally Posted by Kerham

i upload here a pic. the red circle is the detonation area, the area from which the BOMB can generate signlas. The green area is the area from where I AM ABLE to get signals, as an effect of my skills/the tools I use.

What I want u to say is the range of the red circle. So what range u think a bomb can cover? Mathematically, maybe radius is a better exprimation (the distance from the center of the circle to its edge).


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What makes you think it's like this?

And if you mean blast radius (from which you have to be outside to detonate the bomb) it's got a shorter radius than the green one.

By the way, if there is such a thing as the red circle you showed, why would you need to know it's radius? It wouldn't do you any good since what you find is related to the green circle only.

The red could be described as the detection radius of an avatar with unlimited skills and ultimate equipment. And frankly I don't think there is any outer limit.

Originally Posted by Sarah

What makes you think it's like this?

the tests i made, which are not tied to avatar skills or whatever.

Originally Posted by Sarah

And if you mean blast radius (from which you have to be outside to detonate the bomb) it's got a shorter radius than the green one.

obviously, not the blast radius

Originally Posted by Sarah

The red could be described as the detection radius of an avatar with unlimited skills and ultimate equipment. And frankly I don't think there is any outer limit.

there is one. what use? well, when u raise in skills and use better equip, u can put bombs further and further each from another. that seems very important to me and I don't sincerely understand how anyone interested in mining wouldn't be interested in that matter.

[Sarah]

there is one. what use? well, when u raise in skills and use better equip, u can put bombs further and further each from another. that seems very important to me and I don't sincerely understand how anyone interested in mining wouldn't be interested in that matter.

I mean, you surely mean you want to know a formula for calculating the green radius... Based on skills and equipment.

The red circle would only be a hypothetical outer limit for you to find something with a bomb(?). Provided you have unlimited skills. Right?

The green one I can surely agree would be nice to know.

By the way... you said you tested your theory. Obviously not from taking the largest radius to a deposit found (which would give you the green circle). When how?

I think what the question here is is this:

If you drop a bomb/probe at a certain spot in the ground, how far away is IT able to get a signal from?

Isn't that 50 meters (in each direction)? I was told that inbetween dropping, you run about 15-20 seconds if you find nothing, to ensure you cover the whole area. Which would make it interesting. Because 4 circles with just the outer edges touching would ensure gaps inbetween. I might try testing a bit with that stuff...

yea, the green would be nice to know as a formula. i discovered my green circle by some tests with some deposits, mainly by chance.

now, why i said is shocking? nobody gave the right answer :-) the complete radius is 100. so the diameter is 200 m. u can test that. now, Mr. Viagra, those gasps will occur even inside the red circle. u can make the similarity with using a plasma anihilator. the skilled u are, the most u get to the maximum dmg. in mining, as more skilled u have, the green circle tends to grow to the red one. actually, at my skills, with tt tools, i must place bombs considering a range of about 65 meters from where i am able to get signals. for a complete cover, u must put: north, south, east, west at double ur "green" range, sw nw se, ne must be calculated with dear Pitagora :-). i also recommend double bombing the same spot. NOT THE CLAIM, but the point where u originally put the bomb, maybe there are more than 1 claims in the area u can get signals from.

what i wanted to point at: in the game there is a TREMENDOUS number of bombs used aimesly.

[zajebani]

Originally Posted by Kerham

yea, the green would be nice to know as a formula. i discovered my green circle by some tests with some deposits, mainly by chance.

now, why i said is shocking? nobody gave the right answer :-) the complete radius is 100. so the diameter is 200 m. u can test that. now, Mr. Viagra, those gasps will occur even inside the red circle. u can make the similarity with using a plasma anihilator. the skilled u are, the most u get to the maximum dmg. in mining, as more skilled u have, the green circle tends to grow to the red one. actually, at my skills, with tt tools, i must place bombs considering a range of about 65 meters from where i am able to get signals. for a complete cover, u must put: north, south, east, west at double ur "green" range, sw nw se, ne must be calculated with dear Pitagora :-). i also recommend double bombing the same spot. NOT THE CLAIM, but the point where u originally put the bomb, maybe there are more than 1 claims in the area u can get signals from.
what i wanted to point at: in the game there is a TREMENDOUS number of bombs used aimesly.

I agree with the 100 meters to the outer red circle.But i think that the range starts well under 50 meters when you are a noob.

[DarkFire]

Bombing N, S, E and W is bombing in squares and leaves big gaps. Better to bomb in hexa using eyesight
However, you only need to know your actual detection range. If you bomb with 200m between, you will leave huge gaps unless your skills are extreme.
And i recommend bombing the claim. If you find it at less than 25m away you will cover the same area size no matter where you bomb, and if you find it at 40+m away you will cover less area if you bomb the same spot again
try the math

[Sarah]

I have no stats to back it up, or even tested it, but I always thought it was something like this. (It's a halv-sphere even though it's not the best image.)



Larger deposits being deeper, which means you need skills or a whole lot of luck to find the largest.

Provided you know the depth and planar distance from the bomb you could calculate the absolute distance to the deposit with some help from good old Pythagoras.

Where the distance would have to be equal to, or shorter, than "r" which is based on your skills and equipment.

But I guess that's just another theory.

Originally Posted by Kerham

actually, at my skills, with tt tools, i must place bombs considering a range of about 65 meters from where i am able to get signals. for a complete cover, u must put: north, south, east, west at double ur "green" range, sw nw se, ne must be calculated with dear Pitagora :-). i also recommend double bombing the same spot. NOT THE CLAIM, but the point where u originally put the bomb, maybe there are more than 1 claims in the area u can get signals from..

if only u would right carefully, Darkfire :-) is bombing in circles. and u can complete cover an area, with some overlapping. anyhow, i complete agree with u :p

Originally Posted by Sarah

I have no stats to back it up, or even tested it, but I always thought it was something like this. (It's a halv-sphere even though it's not the best image.)



Larger deposits being deeper, which means you need skills or a whole lot of luck to find the largest.

Provided you know the depth and planar distance from the bomb you could calculate the absolute distance to the deposit with some help from good old Pythagoras.

Where the distance would have to be equal to, or shorter, than "r" which is based on your skills and equipment.

But I guess that's just another theory.

i said exactly the same thing, if u consider r as radius of green circle and R radius of red circle, r being able to grow to R and maybe larger than that at some skills and tools.