My mining Theory

[maxwellhawk]

theories abound - but it still comes down to poke and hope.

[Tigerman]

When it come to enmatter spawns, they definetly is not random. First of all, making ANY system even remotely close to a completely random generator would be a VERY bad move on MAs part if they want to ensure their systems give THEM profit instead of loss.
When it come to deposit sizes, they may or may not lie in the ground with fixed sizes, id say they dont have fixed sizes, but that they have given locations.
When you say ores spawn in more or less the exact same spot over and over again, id say "it appears so ,)"
I dont want to go too much into details on how this whole ore spawning thing works, for the same reason some people wont tell you other things.. Its valuable information..

ok, thank you very much for ur attention, now please explain 2 facts:

- perfect newbie in game hits in his 3rd day a 3k deposit of gazzurdite

- 2 hofs on ruga up to date, 1 by a newbie miner 1 by an uber (dunno if same place).

I like very much the points uberdude made, is one of the most expresional and reasonable points i seen in long time.

what i doubt, schnups, in ur theory, is the impact of skills. i think the skills are token out of the equation on the period of this meteor thingie.


regards,

K

[schnups]

Originally Posted by Tigerman

First of all, making ANY system even remotely close to a completely random generator would be a VERY bad move on MAs part if they want to ensure their systems give THEM profit instead of loss.

Absolutely not, the pricinples if have used in my theory BASE on random but this didn´t mean that there is much random in it.
If you roll a dice you can´t tell what number will come (some with dropping a bomb).
If you throw it 50 times, you can hardly guess how often the 1 will come.
If you throw it 1000 times you can probably say how often the number 1 will come with a false range of 50 counts or so.
But if you´ll throw the dice 100.000 times you can say how often the 1 will come with a false prediction range under 1%.

MA probably doesn´t care if they would make on a day a loss instead of profit if they totakl make a good profit at the end of the month.
Maybe they haven´t even a problem to make a loss on a complete Month if they would make a good total profit at the end of the year.

And now guess how many bombs will be dropped on a complete year, and then you can think how predictable this system will be.

For all who have an own webpage i´ve written a small dice-game to clearify prediction on a complete random function.
Just copy the code, name it xxx.php and upload it and have fun
(its very simpel but functional).
A roulette-game uses the same priciples, the casino doesn´t know which number will come next, but they know they will make profit on the long run.

PHP Code:

<?php


for($i=0;$i<=10000; $i++) {
//line 4 starts a loop which starts with 0 and will go on to 1000,don´t change the number above ~200.000
    $number = rand(1,6);
//now we draw a number which can be randomly between 1 and 6
    switch($number){
        case 1:
            $one++;
            break;
        case 2:
            $two++;
            break;
        case 3:
            $three++;
            break;
        case 4:
            $four++;
            break;
        case 5:
            $five++;
            break;
        case 6:
            $six++;
            break;        
    }                    
/*if the number would be 1 then $one would be increased by one, 
if the number would be 2 then $two would be increased by one and so on */

}

echo 'One: '.$one.'<br>'.'Two: '.$two.'<br>'.'Three: '.$three.'<br>'.'Four: '.$four.'<br>'.'Five: '.$five.'<br>'.'Six: '.$six.'<br>';

/* line 33: The output of our test, the greater the testing is (1000 or 100000) 
the more exact we can expect that every number will be exactly 1/6 of the total runs
or in other words the greater the run is the more will be the numbers the numbers the same*/

Originally Posted by Kerham

ok, thank you very much for ur attention, now please explain 2 facts:

- perfect newbie in game hits in his 3rd day a 3k deposit of gazzurdite

- 2 hofs on ruga up to date, 1 by a newbie miner 1 by an uber (dunno if same place).

I like very much the points uberdude made, is one of the most expresional and reasonable points i seen in long time.

what i doubt, schnups, in ur theory, is the impact of skills. i think the skills are token out of the equation on the period of this meteor thingie.


regards,

K

People who had never payled lotto before hit the jackpot...so where the problem?
(But don´t expect that it will happen to you too)

[Snipe]

here is what i found during my time mining:

deposits respawns. its just not always the same type as the last time you mine there, and they spawn at different time intervals.

Some sites respawns the following day, other respawns a bit later (2 - 3 days)

The new VU (7.6) mixed up the mining sites. Thats why you dont find anything at your pre-7.6 "site" or, if your luckey, you will still find something, but it won't be the same size or type. (i used to mine Force Nexus at a site, now all i find is 1 deposit melchi water. Used to find 20 PED of nexus at a time)

just my "findings"

[schnups]

Originally Posted by Snipe

here is what i found during my time mining:

deposits respawns. its just not always the same type as the last time you mine there, and they spawn at different time intervals.

Some sites respawns the following day, other respawns a bit later (2 - 3 days)

The new VU (7.6) mixed up the mining sites. Thats why you dont find anything at your pre-7.6 "site" or, if your luckey, you will still find something, but it won't be the same size or type. (i used to mine Force Nexus at a site, now all i find is 1 deposit melchi water. Used to find 20 PED of nexus at a time)

just my "findings"

do they respawn at the exact same place or only nearby 20m or so away as i notice it with my findings.

I think there are areas with high chances and other with worse (and lots of steps between).
and maybe your areas respawn every day, but another miner works in a different time at the same place
But i guess that every area has its own respawn time

Now, first of all, "areas" are defined by a combo of ores/en-matter.

Deposits do respawn in same area. Silver had a nice description at some time, if u make a grid with, let's say 100 m distance bewteen nods, the deposits circulates on those nodes. Today here, tomorrow or 5 days after, at 50m or 500 m further.

I think also that the general value (sum of the deposits) of the area varies, is not constant.

nevertheless, let this metheor go and only after that u will be able to read smth from the "system", now is ONLY a lottery coz MA inputs, from time to time, a "big chunk" in the loot, in completely absurde way - "big deposits which sucks nearby deposits".

we'll see.