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Old 03-19-2007, 19:59   #21
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You are completely right about crits, Metatron. If you reread the part under "mid fap" you'll see I hinted at this issue, and I believe I was saying exactly what you were. I.E. stay above the max-crit level. Also I mention under the high fap section that of course you should use your high fap while hunting and are in danger of dying.

Crystal Palace, with it's fast hitting mobs, does make the concept of the mid fap a bit useless (unless you consider a fap-80 or ek-2350 as your mid fap) but hopefully you can see where this idea still holds merit in most hunting situations. I've used the multi-fap move quite successfully, however I admit I'm not hunting nearly at the level you are. Hopefully one day I will be.

Please also take into account that I made this for the noob section.
I thought your original post was excellent and thorough, I just wanted to elaborate on critical hits so that your post may apply to a wider range of players. Your information can be useful to a lot more people than just newbies!
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In a huge fight, when you are in danger of dying, you should use your biggest fap. Again, don't over do it. Stay healthy enough to win, but don't get into the trap of healing yourself needlessly after every hit you take. Remember, the mob is regenerating at the same rate you are, (5%/20 sec.) so the more time you waste healing yourself, the harder it is to win.
I dont think the 5%/20seconds is true for all mobs

compare an aurli to a longu or even a seg, and u will notice the difference
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Well, considering the CP aliens hit twice as fast as most mobs, it doesn't surprise me at all that they break other rules-of-thumb.

However, in my experience, most Calypso-side mobs regenerate at around that rate. Have you found any mobs that stray wildly from that general rule?
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Well, considering the CP aliens hit twice as fast as most mobs, it doesn't surprise me at all that they break other rules-of-thumb.

However, in my experience, most Calypso-side mobs regenerate at around that rate. Have you found any mobs that stray wildly from that general rule?
not just cp mobs
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Like i said, longu regen much faster than, lets say ambu (ambu because you think only cp mobs regen different)

I dont have solid proof, its just something i noticed when i would die on a particular mob, if it regenerated fast before i came back or like a normal mob, or slower than average


Just thought of this mob: try troopers
VERY fast regen imo
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Weekend bump for new-mid range players. Hope this helps ya.

Update: the faps my ava currently carries now are:
  • Vivo T1
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I almost never use the Ek-2350. the decay on it per HP is but for the "holy s#!t, I'm gonna die if I don't do something quick" factor, it's a keeper. The FAP-80 is my usual fap-o-war. The 28 for the small boost, and the nice li'l Vivo when I got time. I really do like this new Vivo a lot compared to my FAP-5. (Which is placed safely in storage next to my Ek-2500)

Would be interesting to see what faps others carry. Actam mentioned his FAP-5/FAP-50 set, which is a very common and great pair of faps.

BTW, anybody want a FAP-35?
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I almost never use the Ek-2350. the decay on it per HP is but for the "holy s#!t, I'm gonna die if I don't do something quick" factor, it's a keeper.
Thats funy , because its exactly the case of the player who do no manage well his health.
If you hunt well , with proper armor and weapon , on proper mobs depending on your skill,HP and Fap.And if , you know to manage you health , you dont need to ruch to heal fast , beside the very rare case of som ramdom critic.
You suposed to heal before your health be to low , or (like i love to do) you like the thrill of the very low health and play the 'first hit die" game with the mobs.
But , if you know how manage your health , a normal fap is good enought.
IMHO , fap like 2350 is waste of money and show the very bad health management.



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Would be interesting to see what faps others carry. Actam mentioned his FAP-5/FAP-50 set, which is a very common and great pair of faps.
I do carry only my fap 90.Dont worth to bother with fap 50 or fap 5 , since i do not maxout those anymore since som VU ago (when they chaged the fap mouvement , i sudently stoped to maxout those fap.... MA never change stat ? haha yeah , My ass! ).

As for new fap , i hear vivo is exactly same as fap 5 for low skilled player...
I can tell you even for medium skilled....MA took again som LSD , when i see the stat needed in skill to maxout the fap 5 or fap 50 nowday...
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