Guide to Proper Health Management

[JohnCapital]

Originally Posted by Raffaele Meiers

I made a test and have to say that natural health regain Today VU 9.1 is at 4,1666% or 4 1/6%

Originally Posted by Etopia

an other undocumented feature that change at noone know what VU ...

Actually, according to an older thread, it seems the 5% rule was incorrect. It doesn't look like they changed it lately. Just seems our data was incorrect.

Note that I did address this in the main post when I said:

Originally Posted by JohnCapital

Every avatar regenerates ~5% of their full health every 20 seconds. (NOTE: This heal rate is not exact, based on latest tests, but your heal rate does stay constant regardless of movement, unlike faps.)

EDIT: Unless your numbers indicate the heal rate has been altered again, which I hope not.

Question: How sure are you on your numbers, since we no longer can see our current health rate? Did you just go by the time it took to reach full health?

[Immortal]

Originally Posted by JohnCapital

So, have you improved your heath economy lately?

Been using Adapted Vivo T20's, Vivo T20's which have the eco of
1) skilling me to lvl 20 para (sooonnnnn....)
2) better health/sec than the eki-2600

And I have now taken to medium heal chip beacue i want to skill that too (which I am hitting max heals on now).

Since you hate shopping, hunt formicacida, they drop fap-80's== great eco (but too slow for me)

[Raffaele Meiers]

Yes there was already earlyer a discussion about it and MA's Support "lied" it down with their usual statement that they did not change it so it died....

Originally Posted by JohnCapital

Actually, according to an older thread, it seems the 5% rule was incorrect. It doesn't look like they changed it lately. Just seems our data was incorrect.

Note that I did address this in the main post when I said:


EDIT: Unless your numbers indicate the heal rate has been altered again, which I hope not.

Question: How sure are you on your numbers, since we no longer can see our current health rate? Did you just go by the time it took to reach full health?

Yes I "just" was standing there letting me heal from 0 to 150 HP's naturally and it took exactly 8 minutes so 24 times 20 seconds or 4 1/6% every 20 seconds.
And this is everyone with 8 minutes time can check by themselve very easy.
1)die
2)click yes for revival and C to get time
3)do not use your FAP and wait until your health reaches 100%
4)press C again and look at the time difference betwenn first and second time you pressed C
5) if you are curiouse if the time is still 20 seconds you can look at the healthbar and press every time C it grows, I can tell you it is still 20 seconds..


I followed your link and read the thread, also from 2007 (had also contributed to it) and here some quotes from longterm players and MA's Support statement:

Originally Posted by Optima

Nerf indeed then... Me and many others tested this over time, and yup its confirmed to be 5% (errr... "was" atleast we tested with 90->~160hp people i think, only one that had more @the time was Dan i think lol). Die, then follow regen, take one big hit, then follow regen etc and always 5% nmw. Havent really cared to check for ages though tbh so not sure if this was a rescent change :s

Originally Posted by Stryker

1..12..23..35..46..57..69..80..91..103..114..126.. 137..148..160..171..182..194

11-11-12-11-11-12-11-11-12-11-12-11-11-12-11-11-12

Exactly 20 second intervals still, but looks like we gain just over 11.33 per now I do remember when it was 5% of your total health, was nice to break into the next 20th hp level to gain that extra hp/20 sec, but no longer it seems.

Perhaps the mob regeneration rate was also nerfed

Originally Posted by Recoda

The regeneration rate was tested on creatures, as well as people over three years ago. I gave it a test in April 2004, and the result was exactly 5%.

It was easier to test back then, as you wouldn't see your maximum damage on your final shoot, you'd instead see the damage you actually made to the creature. This meant that you could see the exact damage done, ie, the exact health the creature had, with the regenerations.

Originally Posted by rhogenbe

I finally got an answer from support. Not really a conclusive answer though.

So no real answer.
Something changed and no one in MA even know it has changed.
Very strange.

Cheers
Richard
(ingame Siam)

Conclusion:

there are three possible solutions:

1) MA changed it already in a VU earlier than we asked the question and Support was correct that it did not change in that VU and that it works like intended with 4 1/6% instead of 5% regain every 20 seconds.

2) They simply lied in the support case because they thaught they cant prove it.

3) Support asked the wrong developer about it who did not know shit about this part of the game.


PS: It seams not much but multiply it with the amount of avatars and time in game and it will be several 100 thousands of HP's every day now healed by FAP's rather than naturally and therefore generating decay.

Again another nail for the coffin labeled "Here lies a former great game called PE/EU" not so much the nerve itselve but the ignorance to not telling it and blatantly lying to us.

[JohnCapital]

Thanks for the update, Raffaele Meiers. It is a bummer that this was done to us, but like other things, we either have to adapt or get out.

In the mean time, this changes nothing major about this guide, so I'll let it stand.

Happy hoffing folks.

[Joanni]

Well done, a very informative guide to health. Thanks!

[FaustPL]

Thanks for info for noob +rep.

[memman30]

Great post. It really helped this noob out. +rep.

[AlaxRhal]

Very nice, This is great advice

[Jonas J. Xiamon]

nice guide

Heh, maybe they just want to fuck with our heads?

[Grotesque]

Bump for a great guide!