Adj as 97 & as 129 = the same stats and diferent price

[OgiMini]

Why u think this is? check stats. almot 100% similar.
So what would be the value of each one?

As 129 and adj as 97



avg dmg/sec
as129 - 37.26
adj as 97 - 37.318

avg dmg/pec
as129 - 2.851
adj as 97 - 2.867


max dmg/pec
as129 - 4.132
adj 97 - 4.155

[buckaroobanzai]

Range is different: AS129 has the same range as L rifles (however with less dps and less eco) and is therefore squeezed by the new weapons, while adj97 has some bonus range and still has a niche of its own.
I think the latter deserves a price bonus, how much of this is open to debate of course. If you consider a base price justified by the dps and eco satistics (whichever that may be) in my opinion the extra range of adj97 is worth 20-25% more than base, while the overlapping of AS129 with L rifles is causing a 10-15% discount with respect to base.

Take care,
BBB

[NastyCenturion]

The range and better decay for adj is a big advantage although stats are very similar
And the higher TT of the adj is very useful so although they seem similar there are things that matter except stats

[LostInEntropia]

try tagging a trox out of a spawn with 129

[J4ck]

Adj. stark has more range, which means more hits before X mob starts chewing, which means less fapping, which means higher killspeed, which means less decay in the end.
Also it has sufficient range, which means no tagger is needed.
It also has higher TT, which means you can do longer runs. It also means that after 100 shots Adj. stark will perform better then an as-129 after 100 shots. since it has a greater % of TT left.
Oh it has more att/min too (like 1 i think), which means you can time your fapping better.

Yes i own an Adj. Stark and love it . But i think people should decide for themselves what they find more important, range vs. spending less peds.

[fluske]

actually..if ya amp oth guns with an dante(which you should always do) then the 129 beats the adjusted on both fronts regarding dam/pec and dam/sec

129...average dam/pec 2.886
average dam/sec 55.89

adj ..average dam/pec 2.882
.. average dam/sec 55.997

so the 129 has better stats then the adj besides the range..and the adj is about 10k ped more expensive
thats why i bought an 129 for bo of +7200 a week ago

[OgiMini]

what i see they are very similar and poeple just found out that can save some k peds geting a 129.

anyone care to do a exercise and do calcs on a hardcore hunter day?

[LostInEntropia]

Originally Posted by fluske

actually..if ya amp oth guns with an dante(which you should always do) then the 129 beats the adjusted on both fronts regarding dam/pec and dam/sec

129...average dam/pec 2.886
average dam/sec 55.89

adj ..average dam/pec 2.882
.. average dam/sec 55.997
so the 129 has better stats then the adj besides the range..and the adj is about 10k ped more expensive
thats why i bought an 129 for bo of +7200 a week ago

How can you say 129 has more dmg/sec, look at your own post

go kill some kingfishers tsk, scips, or chompers, you'll notice what the difference is between both. And don't think the 129 will stay at that price either with this VU.

[Klod]

Personally I loved hunting with both of these guns. I sold them though cause they are not nice to players that hasnt at least unlocked commando. Of that reason I see little reason paying higher amount for these guns since the available limited guns offer a economical option to these investments.

Also based on the hp increase of mobs, im not sure the future for adj stark and as 129 look very good.

That how I see it anyway, these guns might soon be on the border to doing to little damage to be usefull for fun hunts, which they really provide atm.

[aridash]

since when have prices in EU been rational or logical? I mean, the AdjV1, is only about 2dmg/sec faster dmg and lower eco than both of these, which have better/much better range. or compare to the MkV which lacking the dante option has far lower dmg/sec for a slim eco advantage. its the mad "market" we work with.