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Old 02-07-2008, 16:56   #1
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Ummm, is this correct?

22 Jan 2008 You wrote:
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This night I was in PVP4 hunting and mining, then I got killed by a Mulmun and get revived, i log out at the revival and go to bed. Now that I log in it said that my anti toxin has worn off and I lay dead there at the revival and all my loot is GONE. The pvp4 zone is not even close, I was at the northern revival for pvp4, it's across a river to enter the pvp zone. I logged out somewhere around 8-9 MA time on the january 22nd. Logged in around 1700 MA time same day that was when it had happend.

07 Feb 2008 Entropia Support:

Hello,
Please note that you are still vulnerable to attacks app 30 seconds after leaving the PvP area. If someone killed you at the revival station as you logged off, he/she would be entitled to the PvP loot.

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First of all, i thought once you have exited to zone you can't be looted? I know you can be killed.

But dying, reviving then getting killed and looted? wtf...

So, any help here about what is true or not would be appreciated.

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Sorry to say some one may have been waiting at the revive for ppl who are killed by mobs. down right dirty trtick but it sounds like that is what has happened
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Though I don't do PVP3 or 4, the MA response is incorrect (unless something
has changed). If it is correct, I see revivals being camped, to kill the
ones that escape PVP3 or 4 with a mob kill. What could be easier than
killing an avatar with a couple health, with no risk

You were killed by Mulman, you should not have lost your anti-toxin
shot or your loot.

Good Luck with support
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You can NOT be looted after you leave PVP, even for the 30 seconds. I killed someone yesterday who had literally JUST stepped out of PVP (it was a long chase), and I got no loot.

If MA has changed this since yesterday, i'd be afraid of revival stalkers
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Many a time I've been subjected to attack after arriving at Akmuul revive from some optomistic and IMO gutless pk wannabe but I just press T to save the run back but only after 30 seconds.

I guess it sucks to have been killed by a mob and then looted upon revive just rub salt in the wound. It might not be fair but if thats the rules , kitchen, heat etc I suppose.
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If i remember correctly MA announced in a VU some time ago that avi's were "immune to PVP" for 1 minute after revival, to prevent the exploit of PVP'ing a player on revival, as it is at a time when the avi has a white screen and Zero health.

If what Dave Foz said is what happened, I would reply to MA, making the following point.

"I would call it an Exploit of a bug then.

Stand at a Revival, Safe as you're not in PVP, shoot, kill & loot arriving Zero health players. Make peds in safety."
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Sorry to hear what happened to you.

Noob camping a pvp revive with tt handgun... Never saw that one as PK material


This would clearly be a bug
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You can not be looted at revive after dying from a mob.

I have tested this myself at both PVP3 and PVP4. This was the case long ago, but was quickly shut down after revival camping occurred at Echidna.

There is the slight possibility that this ability came back (either intentionally or accidentally) during the latest VU.

However, this shows, more than anything, that responses from support can be (and is) based on incorrect game data.

This part scares me the most.
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Sorry to say some one may have been waiting at the revive for ppl who are killed by mobs. down right dirty trtick but it sounds like that is what has happened
Well if the revival is far enough away from PvP that shouldn't be possible.
Since the shooter also have to be in PvP or just left within 30 seconds.
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If i remember correctly MA announced in a VU some time ago that avi's were "immune to PVP" for 1 minute after revival, to prevent the exploit of PVP'ing a player on revival, as it is at a time when the avi has a white screen and Zero health.

If what Dave Foz said is what happened, I would reply to MA, making the following point.

"I would call it an Exploit of a bug then.

Stand at a Revival, Safe as you're not in PVP, shoot, kill & loot arriving Zero health players. Make peds in safety."
I KNOW i seen that statement from MA 2 a few months agoo. This shit actually happend 2 me 2 first time i found Bloodmoss a couple of months agoo. What is NOT the same 4 me as 4 u is my antitoxic shot was still working. The answer I had from MA was something like this. Be aware u r still vulnerable to attacks app 30 seconds after leaving the PvP area. From what i understand the antitox shot is only lost when killed WITHIN the PVP area. Im sorry 4 u and whatever u lost. And i think its a VERY cowardly thing 2 do. 2 Just sit at the revival lurking 4 players who got mobkilled. Such assholes should have a HUGE bounty on their head. But i guess that wouldnt do any good. Cause i BET u such cowards stays OUTSIDE the PVP area no matter what. Once again. Sorry 4 your loss. It STINKS MA if this is the way its supposed 2 be.
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