Current supply of ATAU's

[InDaHouse]

As a currently disgruntaled Crafter of P5a's i'm a bit peeved with the lack of supply of Advanced Target Assessment units (ATAU's).

The current drop rate on these is too low for the demand especialy with the release of the UL Apis BP that require's 7 per click.

MA have released X amount of BP's that require ATAU's, they reduced the drop rate of Korss H400 just before they introduced the P5a BP. This made the demand for P5a's quite high, now they have released the Apis BP that requires the same lvl of skill to craft as the P5a but with more ATAU's per click, and as far as i'm aware my hunter friends have said the drop rate on ATAU's on mobs also dropped around the time the Apis BP was released.

Now we have a problem where there is no ATAU's for sale on auction and as soon as you place an order above the top order someone automaticly up's thiers to make thiers highest.

Too many people need ATAU's to make guns and there is not enough supply so price is rising on cost to craft, as you can see P5a has risen in price and the Apis dropped to start but already is climbing back up.

I also have been told a theory that if something is rare and you can afford to stock alot of it you can manipulate the market and system if this is possible its a serious flaw in the game especialy on crafting materials. I think what is meant is that if e.g. I was to buy 5000 units of ATAU's and hold them in storage it would make the already tight market tighter as i'm not recylcing these into the system again is this possible? I know if someone TT's a ML-35 then according to MA it will be recycled back into loot pool so this might actualy be a true theory and a severely bad practice if anyone does this.

I ask that ALL Crafters of BP's that use ATAU's please send a support addressed to MA Balance team requesting they investigate the the possibility of a higher drop rate on ATAU's to balance with the current demand they themselfs are creating by dropping more BP's.

[Mo.TKoC]

I have sent my support case and await a reply. When i get it i'll post it here.

[Deeveon]

As a crafter myself, I can completely sympathize on the prices of some components like ATAUs, Advanced Scanning Sensors, Flare Filters, etc. that result in some items not worth crafting as you can't get your PED back out of them.

However, I suspect that MA wants the price of ATAUs to be high to keep the markup on the new L guns like the LP485 high enough that it doesn't cause prices of UL weapons to suddenly plummet.

[JaKst3r]

Got 10 ATAU's in 1 drop tonight from Troxy Prov..

none before or after in a whole looot of hunting.

This post says nothing overall.

Thanks

[kpward]

....just a quick add from me. I looted 2 (yes, only 2) from a Big Warrior today East of Emeralds. First time in over 2 months that they dropped for me.

not great news, but it's news.


darri

[ACEwoK]

Originally Posted by InDaHouse

I also have been told a theory that if something is rare and you can afford to stock a lot of it you can manipulate the market and system if this is possible its a serious flaw in the game especially on crafting materials.

Unfortunately this is no theory, its very much reality. for a really obvious (an stupidly unsubtle) example, take a look at the market history for Lysterium, it should still show the huge spike from yesterday.

EDIT: Looks like the spike i spoke of was not Lysterium...or its been flattened by all the other purchases done. Anyway, the point was that someone had put in an amount of something cheap (around 105%) and had had it bought at a ridiculously high % (over 2000%). obviously trying to manipulate (stupidly obvious IMO).

[thoreau]

Originally Posted by Mo.TKoC

I have sent my support case and await a reply. When i get it i'll post it here.

Support case? There have always been materials that are rare.

How Common are Ores & Enmatter?

I remember wanting Vindicator armor at one time but couldn't find Maganite so someone could craft it for me.

http://www.peauction.com/itemlisting.php?id=764

[Optima]

http://www.entropiaforum.com/forums/1133464-post36.html

Since P5A is more or less the "crafted brother" of korss id say the thoughts are the same... (read the linked thread in that post btw please, all of it, before responding).

No idea if ATAU are dropping less, but most likely the shortage is a direct result of the unlimited bps for apis...?

[NastyCenturion]

Yep the apis is the reason for the shortage of ATAU's IMO


It was a thread a while back


Apis vs P5a - ATAU

[unionova]

Last couple of .. mm, days or so, I've had about a total of 5 drops of ATAU's (2-7 in quant per drop i think) and I havent hunted very much really. In total hardly more than a full hunt (~600-800peds worth).

Might just be a fluke ofc, but since it was spread on several days and a few different mobs I'd say the drop rate is higher than it's been before (probably as a direct result of them being used more). So the shortage isn't cause they aren't dropping. And like thoreau says there's always been rare components, materials & resources.