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Old 12-06-2007, 18:30   #1
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BTAU Price crash?

First of all, just let me say I'm not commenting on if this is a good or bad development. Just inquiring as to why it's happening.

In the last few weeks, the markup on Basic Target Assessment Units has fluctuated tremendously. Starting around 9000%, it jump as high as 15,000%, and then dropped down between 3 and 4 thousand %. Right now, it's hovering just below 4000%.

Does anyone know what is happening to cause these dramatic price changes? Are they dropping more often now? Are less crafters using them? Any input would be appreciated, as this has been bugging me for several days now.
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Dropping more often.
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I believe that they are dropping more often. I have looted more BTAU in the past few weeks than ever before.
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It looks like it drop more often, and some crafters listen to what I said in some other threads.

Why should any crafter paying 9k% to 20k% to craft a weapon that can be sold at a maximum at 110%.
In fact that would mean a success without a gloabal on this weap is still a loss, so some stopped crafting this weapons.
No need of BTAU any more!

Do you really think some one should pay a markup for one resource that is higher than the total TT of the full repaired weapon ???
What do you think how often a crafter has to make this experience?
I think you make this experience one time and then never craft this weapon again!
And its only one of many resources, there are other resources needed that have markups on it, too!

I apreciate it very much that the price on generic components dropped drastically, now its sometimes possible to hit break even and not only a gurantee loss.
And the damn resellers trying to manipulate price history, go home.
I stopped buying overpriced some weeks ago.
No more chance to get 5k% markup out of my purse!
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i have a feeling alot of hunting and mining drops that are three and four digits of markup are dropping more often and so their markup is dropping as well. i had several stacks of molisk teeth at 500% buyout and not one bite. after a seven day auction. in my experience molisk teeth are dropping at a much higher rate. same with alot of other high mark up/ semi-rare drops. perhaps that balancing manager actually doesn't think that the correct price for the new (L) guns and items is over 200% or 300%. perhaps we are going to see all (L) items priced at reasonable levels and not dictated by fictional costs created on market assumption. i know MA wants their big time investors but i also can't believe they will not want steady midlevel players and depositors.
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Following Possible factors affecting it:

1. Metal Res drop, people stop crafting:
a) Hunters get weapons and fap cheaper, due to metal res price
b) less crafters crafting, less btau needed.
c) Less crafters, means more hunters/miners
2. MA fidling with % looted.

3. Market Manipulation

4. Since its still relatively new(less then a half a year, if im not wrong), maybe some soc found a good mob that would give u shit loads, thus much more profitable mob then others. OR events are over, people return to regular mob rather then argo at orb, and such. Or certain player event attracted to mob that drops it more common.

These are possible factors affecting it. 3 I doubt, 2 is possible, 1 is most likely. 4 Well can be checked out partly.
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GoNi is being a little dramatic but the point is valid. When the new weapons came out, a lot of crafters were buying the looted components to try out the new bps. After a few weeks, ppl stopped paying big markups on the weapons, so the crafters don't really make them much. There are still some or us who use them, but there isn't as big of a demand for the ''Basic" components.

Add to this the fact that they have been dropping a lot over the past month or two, and it's amazing that they aren't even cheaper.

I used to get ppl who were selling one or two. Now everyone is PM'ing me with a dozen at a time.

The good news for you is that it takes a lot of these items per click, so there will always be a demand.
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Old 12-06-2007, 20:18   #9
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i have a feeling alot of hunting and mining drops that are three and four digits of markup are dropping more often and so their markup is dropping as well. i had several stacks of molisk teeth at 500% buyout and not one bite. after a seven day auction. in my experience molisk teeth are dropping at a much higher rate. same with alot of other high mark up/ semi-rare drops. perhaps that balancing manager actually doesn't think that the correct price for the new (L) guns and items is over 200% or 300%. perhaps we are going to see all (L) items priced at reasonable levels and not dictated by fictional costs created on market assumption. i know MA wants their big time investors but i also can't believe they will not want steady midlevel players and depositors.
You're hunting for the wrong teeth my friend! While Molisk teeth have been dropping in price, it seems Foul teeth are going up. You can actually find people spamming in PA that they're paying 850% for Foul teeth.
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Old 12-06-2007, 21:29   #10
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Another thing to remember. Since the basic TT price of BTAU's is so low... market manipulation is much easier to do.

Yesterday i saw the rate for btau's at around 3.5k% so its falling.
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