uber?? scammer on the role.. watch out guys

[MadMikeHoare]

Originally Posted by BruuD

Very sad this had to happen...

It has been said hundred times before, but i'll say it again:
Don't lend out stuff without collatoral unless you know the person IRL.

True and not true. We all have to start trusting each other again. For myself (with not so many items of that much value) I would give any soc member which is in soc for more than 3 months or a well known person in public, any item/armor/weapon I have. If he/she offers collateral, fine. If not: see what happens. Sad that so many of us be in the same soc for many months and many of us still don't trust each other.

I know of Septimus the Collector Drake and his disciple 1 year ago, which he didnt knew in RL and he gave him his set of Paradox to wear. This means Septimus just trusted a person he doesnt know and that could just run off and scam him worth 7k PED at least. This behaviour is what will lead to friendship ingame and shows there can be trusted, even with items worth a little fortune.

I know it's not easy, but it has to start somehow, somewhen, somewhere - maybe with the soc m8 of your choice

[BruuD]

Originally Posted by MadMikeHoare

I would give any soc member which is in soc for more than 3 months or a well known person in public, any item/armor/weapon I have. If he/she offers collateral, fine. If not: see what happens.

Well, i ain't gonna "see what happens" if i lend out equipment worth more than 10k ped...
I only do that if i can visit the person IRL or get collatoral.

I know there are exceptions and i also lend out stuff to people in my soc without collatoral.
But if you want to be 100% sure you don't get scammed, you shouldnt do that.

[MadMikeHoare]

Originally Posted by BruuD

But if you want to be 100% sure you don't get scammed, you shouldnt do that.

100% agreement, you got my point though I hope

[dean]

Originally Posted by safara

Are you saying that this chap is a Noob because all he managed to scam is a ff 2200M??

And you are laughing about it?? Are you more experienced at scamming bigger stuff??

Sorry, this is what your statement implies to me.

In my eyes there is no difference between scamming a set of Pixie or a set of Shadow. ALL scamming is bad. If I lost something worth +100 peds, it would seriously affect me peds wise, not to mention the greater evil that is loss off trust etc.

Grow up.

And sorry to hear this Bartoke and Hunters Extreme

exacly peeps ff is a good weapon anything scammed is bad even if its pixie like u say lol i wouldnt find it funny if my armor was scammed

[Bartoke]

i managed to get some words of Berz through pm..



(pls don't notice anything bout me huntin in pixie pls!! i was wearing electric plates to kill bristle :f !! )

& thx for the nice replys guys

I would never lend out itemz to anyone else then fire or musk (cuz i know em irl) without collateral but in this case paul & runt knew the guy for so long & trusted him.

Anyway.. support send to MA.. waitin for reply

[dean]

Originally Posted by Bartoke

i managed to get some words of Berz through pm..



(pls don't notice anything bout me huntin in pixie pls!! i was wearing electric plates to kill bristle :f !! )

& thx for the nice replys guys

I would never lend out itemz to anyone else then fire or musk (cuz i know em irl) without collateral but in this case paul & runt knew the guy for so long & trusted him.

Anyway.. support send to MA.. waitin for reply

hmmm $20 still money not everyone has big CC balance anyway hope he gets sorted by MA

[Muskito]

Talked to him in pm few mins ago, tried to be nice against him, else he would just say some crap like he did against barto...one moment he said he didn't do those things from google and the other moment he said it happened long ago when he was 17 etc blabla bullshit

First i lost my adj v1 (prolly not because of scamming, but she just dissapeared and i'm really afraid something happend to her irl) (oh and i always ask collateral but for once i didn't, and right then she dissapeared :|)and now Paul that got scammed pffff

[F1r3]

Then he locked me (i suppose he meant ignore)

> he chatted me again

saying something about making an advertisement with all of HE members (and now including me because i chatted him)

then he went on about "i have guns you cant afford" (*cough* ^^)
i asked him to scan me :P
-> "scan my pedcard retard" etc

more flames etc

then he went on about "the proof" o_O

oh well

[AmorJogo]

Well let me be clear... Scamming is BAD, really I feel the same way...

However i do need to give some words of advice... I've been talking to noobs/beginners and mentors for my Charity Program for a LONG time now...
I've talked to over 100 noobs i think and NOT ONE OF THEM has scammed me, some even returned their stuff and showed me their gratitude but didn't want to accept (check Charity Shop thread for more info).

So it's not because this guy is noobish that all noobs may be scammers, on the contrary, i personally think that more experienced players are more likely to become scammers since it's of more interest to them to scam, they can use the money in a 'better' way...

Greetz

[BERZ0303]

Well Now that you seem to get all your differnt accounts of this out. I figured Id tell the truth on what really happend. Having a bad reputation from something in ones past doesnt help much, but i have learned telling the truth is the right thing to do and im really sickend by the actions of this soc. Part of the reasoning behind leaving the soc is because it has changed greatly then what it was. Which was fun, exciting ect... Now its boring, noone knows each other and its not even worth playing in a soc. The other night runt was complaining about us saying things so taht was it for me. As far as that gun of "pauls" i returned that b4 i left.. I gave away all my items to users within the soc, including a pet i bought from some girl that was close to the soc ( got scammed for 100ped ) when it was worth nothing. and the level of the pet was @ minimum. Pauls gun was returned. I had offered to pay for the gun when i was in the soc, because i do things for the soc when i am in it. For example, i would hide PED in fort fury for a game for the soc, or give away items randomly... Funny i dont see any posts about that... Or how F1re acts so immaturly, if i was in his soc, id be ashamed. I dont need to take screen shots of the messages i have recieved from memebrs in this soc as they kno who they are and what they have said, and my Goal, isnt like HE's is. I dont intent to make HE look Bad or talk crap about HE. My goal is only for the truth to be out. And for them to make a forum post calling me a scammer, well that just doesnt cut it for me, thats pretty shitty. I hope oneday youll realize other things then u think i scam. the FF watever was like 400 PED.... I deposit money all the time, i have no need to scam a gun. Not to mention if i was going to scam why would i waste my time and reputation over a crappy gun? Im a new player, skill wise, and im not sure why that matters..... I guess when your new your automaticlly a bad person, and if anyone says u do something everyone automatically beleives it cause the person accused is a newb. The end result of all this was immature acts by HE and all of its members, and its seems like I was right by when i say the Soc has changed. I will take from this a big lesson to never borrow anything from anyone, especially when they can change from being a great group of individuals to play with, into a group of wolves, hungry for a gun worth nothing that i had no negative intentions with. Good luck HE and i hope you do great in the future, and thank you for all the negative comments you have left, showing everyone how HE really is.