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Old 02-14-2008, 23:05   #21
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I never accused MA of trying to eek out each and every PED here. I'm using the differences as examples of how adjusting play styles is an active process of adjusting the player experiences relative to the perceived risk/reward benefit.

In other words: they very likely felt that reducing both the risk and reward for hunting armed vs unarmed was desireable. So they found ways to do that, which had a number of changes involved. Now those changes are being tweaked in ways that will adjust different aspects of player styles so they can help get more whales landed and need fewer minnows.

It's not black and white, it never will be a good/bad thing or a right/wrong issue. It's a player style balancing act done with very discrete changes to a number of things. It's probably quite beautiful too (from a data modelling perspective), but we'll never see it. Just like (most) of my database users never see the stuff I put behind the scenes in my multidimensional databases for analytical data mining.

Oh well... it's best that way.
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I never accused MA of trying to eek out each and every PED here. I'm using the differences as examples of how adjusting play styles is an active process of adjusting the player experiences relative to the perceived risk/reward benefit.

In other words: they very likely felt that reducing both the risk and reward for hunting armed vs unarmed was desireable. So they found ways to do that, which had a number of changes involved. Now those changes are being tweaked in ways that will adjust different aspects of player styles so they can help get more whales landed and need fewer minnows.

It's not black and white, it never will be a good/bad thing or a right/wrong issue. It's a player style balancing act done with very discrete changes to a number of things. It's probably quite beautiful too (from a data modelling perspective), but we'll never see it. Just like (most) of my database users never see the stuff I put behind the scenes in my multidimensional databases for analytical data mining.

Oh well... it's best that way.
Yeh, this is how I see it too. Hmm well I dont realy get the frog analogy then.
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Old 02-15-2008, 02:22   #23
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Ok. I haven't noticed a change.

However.

Is it maybe that you are not runnig slower, but the animals are running faster?

The other day i was mining, i could outrun trax young (run at exactly the same speed).

Maybe MA has implemented it so animals run at their actual agility now. Or maybe it's a bug. All i know is that i survived a heck of a long time in thorio land with 60 of them chasing me
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Is it maybe that you are not runnig slower, but the animals are running faster?
That is certainly possible. I wish I had done a timed point to point run some months ago.
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I used to be able to outrun an Atrox Old at 67 Agility .. now I can't.
Mr Atrox Old caught up to me and chomped on my armor before I had to turn around and kill him.

So sad .. I'm usually so kind to animals and this forces me to keel them !
And .. I didn't know item count affected your run speed .. I ALWAYS have over 50 items ..

I still vote for the shiny bicycles with banana seats, handlebar baskets, and tassles !!
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I checked against an exa guardian. I outrun it.
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Clothes, armour, plates, guns, amps, swords, FAPs, ammo, implant, chips - the list can easily reach 30 items without trying.

Then you (hopefully) add loot: 3 or 4 types of oils; residue; assorted bits of tree; several pieces of armour that you'll never wear; wools; hides; skins; several hundred Basic Stone Extractors; orange, brown and violet cream paint; loads of ammo you can't use - and a cracked Argo skull!

Congratulations! you're now running like you're underwater.
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Clothes, armour, plates, guns, amps, swords, FAPs, ammo, implant, chips - the list can easily reach 30 items without trying.

Then you (hopefully) add loot: 3 or 4 types of oils; residue; assorted bits of tree; several pieces of armour that you'll never wear; wools; hides; skins; several hundred Basic Stone Extractors; orange, brown and violet cream paint; loads of ammo you can't use - and a cracked Argo skull!

Congratulations! you're now running like you're underwater.

I generally carry at the very least 30 pieces of clothes ...
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I generally carry at the very least 30 pieces of clothes ...
Gotta have the right outfit for when Mr Atrox is chewing on your butt

Brown trousers usually
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I generally carry at the very least 30 pieces of clothes ...
Not forgeting the make up.....
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