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Old 03-19-2008, 22:40   #11
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True, i skilled on tants and sold the weapon system and support system skills.
I could pay the esi, gun(with markup) + ammp + armor& fap decay and still have money. All the loot was for free.
So go kill tants
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MA already knows now for over a year. So it's not a bug. If you do it, its not an exploit.

Somewhere Marco has said, "Hunting cetain mobs have advantages over hunting others"

Of course hunting tants you'll never loot anything more than an esi or m2722, but you'll certainly get good skills.
Nah man i know that it was a joke :P Was just related to nerfs on many skills when MA found out how fast people were gaining them :P
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ok guys...preapare for cheaper support weapon skills now, I think price on Explosives will drop from 9k to 3-4k% soon and Weapon Support from 15k% to 5k%

Who disagree?, hands up!
And who has a skill shop?
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Ok, whats required:

Mod fap, imp fap
Pixi with 5A (or some other cheap yet very eco armour - but not too protective, u want to take dmg, thats what the mod fap is for)

Go out and kill tants all day with grenade launcher, get as many tants as you can.

You gain insane amount of skills. Its proven that tants give very good skills even to someone with uber skills in the first place (small mob)

To break even/profit you can just sell the explosive projectile skills you gain.

All the evade and general skills you gain is pure graaavvyyyyy.


Hell it might even work with L fap but I havent tested.
Thank you so much for the advice. To be sure next update all this will change. AmIright or AmIright? I am a major depositor but every time I get to the level to make some ingame gains the goal posts seem to change in the next update. All of my proven mathematical calculations and experiments confirm this. I have a lot of data and research, and, basically, if you are not an early day player on here forget any concept of profit, any fun you have will cost you more and more, if my data and fact change I'll tell you, but thus far new players, U R SCREWED LIKE ME!

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Thank you so much for the advice. To be sure next update all this will change. AmIright or AmIright?
end of landgrab will change it earlier...because demand on these skills will go down drastically
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Ok, whats required:

Mod fap, imp fap
Are you going to sell such a FAP soon?

Its no secret that this FAPs are the best thing you may get ingame, much better than a ModMerc.
Look at the price for it, every noob should depo that little pocket money to buy a ModFAP
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end of landgrab will change it earlier...because demand on these skills will go down drastically

landgrabs? Lol, now let us think, what players had any chance of winning the supposedly lucrative land areas. Hmmm, let me think. Here goes. Those with the greatest advantage; ie the owners of the best in game equipment and highest skills which were easily and far more cheapily obtainable in the past than now? Hmmm. you work it out. Let us ask, who won the most recent landgrabs? Hmm. Hard one. A pure guess here. Ubers? No, surely not, and surely they won't also win other upcoming future landgrabs? No, surely not, who will win those, ok a really really wild guess here, Hmm, maybe Ubers again? Of course they will as the land grab comps are rigged so that, hmm, lets work it out, who wins?..... Lol. U guessed right!
Ubers! lol

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landgrabs? Lol, now let us think, what players had any chance of winning the supposedly lucrative land areas.
Its not about who will win landgrab this timme and who will win any other landgrabs in the future.
Its about the impact of the landgrab onto the value of some special skills you can build up cheap while hunting tants with support weapons.

Support Weapons are relatively new, and the old time ubers are unskilled as everybody else.
The launchers have shown that this weapons are very efficent in the landgrab.
The UBERs want to use this weapons beside their regular PK weapons and need to skill it up very fast! Chipping in to max the biggest launcher is the way!
The price for launchers, explo ammo, and support weapon skills are up atm, because there is a landgrab.
This higher prices will reduce to normal after landgrab is done, as after that it isnīt any more that much important to increase the skills for support systems very fast!
EU is dynamic and you have to adapt to changes and special situations, all this people that go vs tants to skill support weapons very fast do it right.
They can chip out that skills and sell with profit, atm. It is not said that this will work in the future as good as now, but atm it is very smart to do this!

BTW the hunters that want to use launchers in landgrab, can do that to and chip in additionally to the naturally gained skills, what may give them a bigger advantage.
This method of skilling works for UBERs in the same way as it does for mid level players.
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Are you going to sell such a FAP soon?

Its no secret that this FAPs are the best thing you may get ingame, much better than a ModMerc.
Look at the price for it, every noob should depo that little pocket money to buy a ModFAP
I can make 40k ped from skills each month with mod merc. In 1 year, after reaching skilling goals I can buy a mod fap. How much fapping you need to do to buy a mod merc?

Mod fap gives evade related skills, some FA skills and not much else... you can make 50-70 ped/hr using it. With mod merc I can make 120-170ped/hr from skills and because is efficient I profit on the long run and I make profit from markup on my loot to.

Mod fap is highly over rated, but is the best PvP kit in game. I will buy one from hunting profits in 2 years if it will not go to much in price. And that using a mod merc. And I say 2 years because it makes no sense in buying a mod fap before you buy complete hunting gear and you are highly skilled. Mod fap is mostly for status, because the money it has sticked in it can make more money invested in other things. Even if you buy only skills from half those money you are better than having and using mod fap.

A hunter needs a good gun before any other tool. You can do without good fap or good armor if you use your brain.


And back on topic...

Is no secret that skilling in EU brings huge profits. That is true in any profession, if you know what you want and want to invest your time and energy doing it. There are so many skills in EU... why focus on one? why focus on the one that all people focus on? Dodge is expensive and not so hard to get. Engineering is expensive and easy to get if you know how. And so many other skills.
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MA already knows now for over a year. So it's not a bug. If you do it, its not an exploit.
MA knew about T+Y for several years, yet they had the gall to call it a bug and the users of it, exploiters, when they removed it last VU.

I would love to see them "fix" tants, and have pointed out the weird inversion of skilling (low mobs skill faster) in support cases, but only if they make bigger mobs skill faster...
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