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Old 04-17-2008, 02:03   #11
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P5+a104 winz (unless of course you got better amps ) I like p5 over korss400 because it lasts longer in the field (33% more shooting time, 0.8-1.2 (a104/a106) less dmg/sec though, so the difference may be noticed for mobs with >1500hp).

Blp isn't anywhere near comparable eco, however the top of the line: T5, T10, Bl1000. And the rifle cb19 and manis are great too. cb21 f you can us and find them. You are about to unlock the SIB for cb13 - dirt cheap and skilling blp rifle on this would be a great step.

A note on SIB, as i experienced a lot of the during SIB period:you are going to miss a lot, and you are also going to have reduced dmg. These misses are converted into skills. Depending on whether you want to break even on runs or to skill up at an accelerated rate should be your judge as to whether you decide to use weapons in their SIB period.
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Old 04-17-2008, 02:22   #12
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if you are looking to build skills to some day use the delta it would seem that the korss is not the best option as delta is BLP and korss is laser.

some better options would be:

(highest skill to lowest)
emik T10 (looted - longu)
geo - H41-mina (crafted)
svempa - T5 (crafted *check photons shop i think*)

(highest eco to lowest *markup not included*)
T5 - 4.14
H41 - 4.11
T10 - 4.08


all info taken from entropedia.


on a more personal level i used the T5 for a long time, till i had the T10 almost maxed. got a good deal on T10 used that one and went back to the T5. i never used the H41 but stat-wise its a good looking gun and it uses the sweet looking simi-auto looking style. all are able to be amped with beast amp for increased eco. either way you decide to go keep shooting till about prostanding around 29 to 30 and step up to the T15 with a dante now thats some dmg a sec.

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*edit markup not included*
think of this:
max dmg/s madIV/delta w/beast = ~70
max dmg/s T5 w/beast = 50
max dmg/s T15 w/dante = 84

keep skilling and you can out dmg the delta very quickly

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(highest eco to lowest)
T5 - 4.14
H41 - 4.11
T10 - 4.08
It is vital to include markups when calculating eco. Also some are very rare prints and/or not crafted due to limited/expensive resources. I haven't seen ingame auction but other data on the Mina shows only two sold this year
T5 - 120% - 4.1
T5 - 130% - 4.05
T5 - 140% - 4.00
T10 - 150% -3.98
T10 - 160% - 3.95
H41 - 140 % - 3.91
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It is vital to include markups when calculating eco. Also some are very rare prints and/or not crafted due to limited/expensive resources. I haven't seen ingame auction but other data on the Mina shows only two sold this year
T5 - 120% - 4.1
T5 - 130% - 4.05
T5 - 140% - 4.00
T10 - 150% -3.98
T10 - 160% - 3.95
H41 - 140 % - 3.91
very true and a forgotten part of my post.

when i was using the T5 the H41 was much more common.


and also a good point that the eco i posted is without markup.


and here i thought i was providing such good info

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Hmmm Korss 400 (L) no BLP pistol lol

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My advice is to set the Delta in storage, grab a Korss, and skill until well past coolness. Other people may recommend skilling even longer.

Hi! as far I know is not Korss 400 (L) a BLP pistol and will not give the Avatar needed skills to skill up BLP weapon TECH lol

So mate start using BLP pistols that are Limited =(L) and put the Delta in storage.Just look on info on them so you don't have HA less then 6,6/10.

And no P5a is not a good pistol conserning the eco hunting ;(

BLP pistols kills much faster ther buy bigger chance for HOF!

you see mate the fire rate= Attacks/min on BLP pistol is much higher and no Laser pistol can beat that,ther by more damage .
Except for 2 Laser pistols that are rare(EWE EP-40 Mercenary Modified and
EWE EP-40 Mercenary Modified Ancient both thos have 86/min


I have skilled so far up to level 40 so I'm not gone use Laser intill I get up to level 100. Then al consider to use a kama killer that can fire 61/min that are one of the fastest Laser Pisols in the game .
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And no P5a is not a good pistol conserning the eco hunting ;(
Explain what you mean by this? P5a is -the- eco weapon.

Hunting hogglo + tough mobs with high hit is not advised, you seem to have just thrown this comment in there,totally contradictory to every other post, without any data to back it up.
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Hi

Looking at your figures I would say that the best BLP pistol for you now is probably the Svempa T5(L) with a Beast amp.
The best Laser pistol right now would probably be a Breer P4a(L) with A104 amp.

If you want to look at every (L) weapon at once and compare your stats on them you could visit Coop's (L) museum which is in Sakura, Sachi block, floor 15, apartment B.

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The eco of any (L) weapon is always going to depend on the markup.
The price of different weapons will go up or down at different times, so it is good to pick from a variety of weapons instead of always buying the same gun regardless of the markup.
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Explain what you mean by this? P5a is -the- eco weapon.

Hunting hogglo + tough mobs with high hit is not advised, you seem to have just thrown this comment in there,totally contradictory to every other post, without any data to back it up.

Sorry every body that coment whas not a good one I apollydice
for that .
P5 (L) is a good Eco pistol if you like Laser but this Topic aint about Laser Pistols it's about BLP pistols
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