Will it ever be possible to get to level 100 ?

[Gaius MB]

Hi,
from what i've read there was a change in skill mechanics a while ago, which makes skillgains past 5k very slow.

I wonder if it will ever be possible to get close to level 100 in hit/damage profession and evade.
I scanned quite a lot of people so far, and those with higher skills were all older players (strenght 9) while i hardly saw any new ones above 30-40.

And unfortunately i start to feel that myself: i have around 3.6k in rifle now, in order to get 1 point, i need to shoot roughly around 1k ammo (using maxed isis 32L+ 105).
And together with Laser Weapon Technology, Rifl seems to be the skill growing the fastest, compare to all the other skills that contribute to hit/dmg profession (some of the attributes show almost no change after a 10k ammo hunt @ 2-3k).
So it takes hundred thousands of ammo-charges to get a level in the area close to 30 .... how will it be at higher levels ? Do skills like Serendipity, Coolness and Combat sense compensate the slowing down of skillgain so that it is still possible to get to the top levels, or will the skillgain get lower and lower, leaving a new character 0 chance to get to levels like 60-70, where an UL gun starts to be profitable ?
How much ammo/time does it take for 1 skillpoint in rifl (or other main weapontype) at levels 40, 50, 60 ?

Thanks in advance for any info on this issue.

[DoNotPause]

Stamina is 9, not strength

and yes, there will be someone at lvl 100

[Kazanori]

Everything is still possible it's just that bit harder now and if you are determined enough you will make it there one day ^^, just try to have as much fun as possible along the way

[Jimmy B]

Yes its possible, it just takes a long time (without chipping). If everyone could get there in a year, having lvl 100 wouldn't mean anything anyway.

Originally Posted by Gaius MB

I scanned quite a lot of people so far, and those with higher skills were all older players (strenght 9) while i hardly saw any new ones above 30-40.

That's not surprising. It was only fairly recently that avatars changed from starting with 9 Stamina. There simply hasn't been enough time for the players with 1 Stamina to skill up to uber level.

[Rayne Jade]

The answer is YES, but it will not be anyone that started playing in the last 3 years (unless they eat chips for a year and spend $1,000,000 to get there). Those of us that started after Entropia went gold are the middle and lower class in the universe. Those that were fortunate enough to start prior to the gold era are the upper class and that is how it will always be. Accept it - you will be happier.

[Doer]

Yes. I believe the progress calculator (http://esi.coolinc.info/progress.cgi) estimated that i'd reach level 100 in Sniper in about 10 years, and level 100 Ranged Laser (Dmg) in about 13 years. That's not including the effects of Commando and Kill Strike when i unlock them, so let's be optimistic and say 9 years and 12 years.

You are referring to the most recent skill nerf, as described here: Challenge to the community: unfreeze the skill progression

What was changed is the nature of the skill level to skill volume function. Jdegre made this plot to show the nature of the change.


Basically, what used to get you to 10k in a skill (about 1250 PEDs volume) will now get you to about 8k, and 10k is that much effort again from 8k (2500 PEDs total volume).



At level 3.6k, you have 50 PEDs volume in that skill (http://esi.coolinc.info/?level=3600), so when you've repeated the efforts it took to get there 50 times, you'll be at 10k in that skill (~2500 PEDs volume).

[il]

Originally Posted by Rayne Jade

The answer is YES, but it will not be anyone that started playing in the last 3 years (unless they eat chips for a year and spend $1,000,000 to get there). Those of us that started after Entropia went gold are the middle and lower class in the universe. Those that were fortunate enough to start prior to the gold era are the upper class and that is how it will always be. Accept it - you will be happier.

there was a skill reset after gold

so there is not advantage for people pregold.

your right if you mean all players before the first skill change VU 6 or 7

[Jimmy B]

Originally Posted by Doer

Yes. I believe the progress calculator (http://esi.coolinc.info/progress.cgi) estimated that i'd reach level 100 in Sniper in about 10 years, and level 100 Ranged Laser (Dmg) in about 13 years. That's not including the effects of Commando and Kill Strike when i unlock them, so let's be optimistic and say 9 years and 12 years.

Your calculations don't include future skill nerfs

So on the downside, we may all look like Yoda by the time we get there. On the plus side, it'll be pretty cool at that age to be able to do a triple-back-flip flying attack in a Light Sabre (L) battle.

[jdegre]

Originally Posted by Gaius MB

I wonder if it will ever be possible to get close to level 100 in hit/damage profession and evade.
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So it takes hundred thousands of ammo-charges to get a level in the area close to 30 .... how will it be at higher levels ? Do skills like Serendipity, Coolness and Combat sense compensate the slowing down of skillgain so that it is still possible to get to the top levels, or will the skillgain get lower and lower, leaving a new character 0 chance to get to levels like 60-70, where an UL gun starts to be profitable ?
How much ammo/time does it take for 1 skillpoint in rifl (or other main weapontype) at levels 40, 50, 60 ?

it all depends on how much you spend (or recycle) / day. i've heard that at high levels (>80), you better burn over 3k peds / day, if you want to see any significant progress at all.

if you are like me, and rarely burn over 500 peds / day, then you better be prepared to be stuck in the 50's, or at most in the 60's, for years to come.

unlockables, such as CS, do give a boost to the progression, but only during a couple of levels (4k skill points at 5%, for laser sniper hit, for instance).

[Chopper]

My dictionary defines "Success" as the progressive realisation of a worthwhile goal...

You're not going anywhere, anytime soon I take it? You plan to stick around..?

Then shoot shoot shoot

As long as you're not blowing tons of peds by trying to run before you can crawl, and as long as you're having fun along the way...

You'll get there..