Impact on health of chipping skills

[wizzszz]

Originally Posted by Jimmy B

No I think you've made a copying error, both me and Doer have Neo coming out fine too.

Oops, indeed, i had 11047.4 for dexterity instead of 10047,4

Now using 40,20,148,20,80, the overall error on me, noob, doer, yours and neo is <0,012%!

And i think that's rounding errors from the scan

Awsome!!! Champaign, anyone?

[jdegre]

Originally Posted by wizzszz

Oops, indeed, i had 11047.4 for dexterity instead of 10047,4

Now using 40,20,148,20,80, the overall error on me, noob, doer, yours and neo is <0,012%!

And i think that's rounding errors from the scan

Awsome!!! Champaign, anyone?

champaign would be great, but in any case, i'm ready to hand over a bunch of EFDs for the OUTSTANDING work you guys have done here!!

[wizzszz]

Using reverse logics, we can conclude that neither of neomavens unlocks contributes to health (which leaves only a few unlocks, all very unlikely to contribute anyway)



Will update the first post as soon as i've calmed down a bit

And pretty much worth to go in the "impact" thread, jimmy b!

[Jimmy B]

OK I just checked some Stamina 1 avatars on wiki. They remain shifted if I try using 160 Stamina, so we'll stick with 148 which produces the best results. And like jedgre points out, written his way 148 isn't inconsistent with the rest.

[Jimmy B]

Originally Posted by wizzszz

Using reverse logics, we can conclude that neither of neomavens unlocks contributes to health (which leaves only a few unlocks, all very unlikely to contribute anyway)



Will update the first post as soon as i've calmed down a bit

And pretty much worth to go in the "impact" thread, jimmy b!

Yeah, I've updated the impact thread wizz. Told ya we wouldn't need to chip

Thanks for getting us going on this, I've been meaning to finish this off for ages, glad we finally got there!

Regarding remaining unlocks that may contribute - yes it does pretty much prove none of the unlocks neo has contribute. He's not got all the non-combat ones though so its possible there's a few more out there that contribute. But I doubt there's many, if any, the much debated mindforce ones seem plausible though.

Originally Posted by Doer

If i could stop making typos, i'd beat you to the punchline one of these days.

lol sorry Doer, and yes you'd have had the result a couple of days ago if it wasn't for the typo. I reckon you did it subconsciously to prolong the fun

[wizzszz]

Originally Posted by Jimmy B

Yeah, I've updated the impact thread wizz. Told ya we wouldn't need to chip

Thanks for getting us going on this, I've been meaning to finish this off for ages, glad we finally got there!

Regarding remaining unlocks that may contribute - yes it does pretty much prove none of the unlocks neo has contribute. He's not got all the non-combat ones though so its possible there's a few more out there that contribute. But I doubt there's many, if any, the much debated mindforce ones seem plausible though.

I'll do a bit research on which unlocks can be excluded, and list the remaining in the first post, so the purpose of this thread is not completely lost.

I guess chipping is no longer needed though, as we might nail it down by having a complete skill set now.
(missing ones should be only beauty/tailoring/mindforce unlocks anyway, skills only a few people have unlocked so far, so for the vast majority the health formula is resolved)

[jdegre]

chipping optimizer updated with new %'s

[Doer]

I found a convergence of base_HP for old and new avatars at a stamina % a lot lower than that, but there is a lot of error so i think there are some bad data.

Wizzszz, you should probably update the original post to reflect that the mystery is largely solved. These threads have a habit of getting bumped up by some confused person running off on their own misguided tangent.

Good work getting the dialogue on this started again. It's about time for a VU to give us something to chew on.

[wizzszz]

Originally Posted by Doer

Wizzszz, you should probably update the original post to reflect that the mystery is largely solved. These threads have a habit of getting bumped up by some confused person running off on their own misguided tangent.

Took me a while to filter the known unlocks out, first post changed now.

In case you still do some more testing and find an avatar with one or more of the unlocks listed as unknown, yet having no deviation to the formula, let me know and i'll remove them from the "missing" list.

[Oleg]

Outstanding work guys! If you wait a few weeks I'll give you some Senior Member cash for this