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Old 05-15-2008, 12:03   #71
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No intention to poach, necro bump or start a flame war but OMFG ARE YOU HUNTING SNABLEZ WITH OPALO.

Methinks ye aren't hunting as much as yethinx ye are. since 40*7*4<<2*5*365*1.5
Sry Immortal, i have to agree with Svarog. I started seriously playing EU also about 1,5 years ago and i am still at only 67 agility. I hunted my ass off, using breers p5a, Maddox IV, korss400, HL6/8. Manis lp 147 (now way toooo expensive, imo) marber bravo, fusil charade, starkhov-97, lr 32, 41, ect. Skill level is about: 46 in handgun, 42 in blp, other hit/damage skills around 40. Have coolness, medicine, treatment, etc unlocked. Hunting, Trox OA, hoggs, chompers, aurli's, ambu's (up to stalker), Kreltin, trax, formidons, scipolors, cornoanterions, etc etc almost everything.
So NO opalo and NO snablez. But still just 67 agility.
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Old 05-15-2008, 17:03   #72
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....ambu's (up to stalker) ...


Neo dear, you only killed 1 stalker, and you used 2 healers to do it. :P

sry, can't resist the temptation to bug you, but atleast this time I'm gonna bless your loot instead of cursing it
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Old 05-15-2008, 17:36   #73
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Neo dear, you only killed 1 stalker, and you used 2 healers to do it. :P
What a cruel girl . It's not funny to publish man's little secrets .
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I think it has already been seen how MA respond to Skills.

If too many people get too highly skilled they alter the "skill progression" rate to slow down the rate of advancement, drastically.

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A certain amount of "effort" used to get an avi to 10k.
Now the same effort will only get them to 8k, not a big gap between 8k and 10k, but, getting from 8k to 10k now requires the same amount of effort again.
In effect, getting to 10k is now twice as hard as it used to be.

I think it unlikely that ma will "de-value" skills. If you have a set amount of points, Ma won't alter that, but what they will do is steepen the slope, to make further progress harder.

Gain skills as fast as you can. In the future, it will be harder, as MA try and keep the % number of members at each level as constant as they can.
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Old 05-15-2008, 19:00   #75
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Neo dear, you only killed 1 stalker, and you used 2 healers to do it. :P

sry, can't resist the temptation to bug you, but atleast this time I'm gonna bless your loot instead of cursing it
Almost right, babe. I only hoffed on one.... But true the healers were very very welcome...i mean needed...........

p.s. and thanx for publishing my biggest secret, you nasty....
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Almost there: small argos (up to a guardian) with breers m2a, 99% of the time
I do usually at least 5 100ped ammo runs every day (more on weekends). Such a run with a breer m2a (34 shots/min, 5 ammo/shot) would take exactly a hour even if you won't pull your finger off the trigger . Actually it takes a bit longer
Okay thanks for clearing that up. I don't think bemoaning one's agility at only 60 is appopriate when the hunt is not very intense. Sure it takes 5 hours, but you are hunting very lightly. As stated in other threads, a typical weekday for me is 1kped ammo. When i was hunting ambu with p5a it was ~250pedammo+decay/hour. In fact that's the standard ammo+decay burn for me, regardless of mob

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Sry Immortal, i have to agree with Svarog. I started seriously playing EU also about 1,5 years ago and i am still at only 67 agility. I hunted my ass off, using breers p5a, Maddox IV, korss400, HL6/8. Manis lp 147 (now way toooo expensive, imo) marber bravo, fusil charade, starkhov-97, lr 32, 41, ect. Skill level is about: 46 in handgun, 42 in blp, other hit/damage skills around 40. Have coolness, medicine, treatment, etc unlocked. Hunting, Trox OA, hoggs, chompers, aurli's, ambu's (up to stalker), Kreltin, trax, formidons, scipolors, cornoanterions, etc etc almost everything.
So NO opalo and NO snablez. But still just 67 agility.
Thanks for posting stats I got wounding three weeks ago so i have lvl 49dmg since then...what you hunt is kinda different from svarog, at 67 agility under the current system tells me you have hunted 60% more intensely than svarog in the same time. Or to be more precise, you have cycled 60% more ped through agility-building weapons. And the same calc tells me I hunt 140% more intensely than you, assuming you are hunting every day like that. I'll be posting a thread when i get an achievement I feel took a reasonable amount of work (like CS...still a month away ) so you can compare stats then ^^

and yes i agree manis is too expensive now :\ Need to loot more ataus to strike a balance. It was my favourite weapon @ 140%

So my answer to the OP: No, EU will never be overskilled.

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Now the same effort will only get them to 8k, not a big gap between 8k and 10k, but, getting from 8k to 10k now requires the same amount of effort again.
Very close same effort from level 1-83 is required to get from lvl 83-100.

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I think it has already been seen how MA respond to Skills.

Gain skills as fast as you can. In the future, it will be harder, as MA try and keep the % number of members at each level as constant as they can.
Words of wisdom!

MA has all the ubers they need for promotional purposes. Any more and they might start to lose cash... What if we all became ubers drawing out a monthly paycheck?
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Old 05-19-2008, 20:45   #78
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I don't know what MA will do in the future with skills but you can be certain they're keeping a very close eye on things.

Not only is it the backbone of the game, if you look in auction history you'll see 1.8 million ped of esi were sold over the last year - that's $180,000 of pure decay straight into MAs pockets
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I don't know what MA will do in the future with skills but you can be certain they're keeping a very close eye on things.

Not only is it the backbone of the game, if you look in auction history you'll see 1.8 million ped of esi were sold over the last year - that's $180,000 of pure decay straight into MAs pockets
dont you meen 180k PED = $18k ?
or am I using me kneecap to think again?
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dont you meen 180k PED = $18k ?
No, auction shows 1.8M ped which is $180k
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