FYI: Careful when chipping out to change proffesions

[Nebu]

I guess its pretty common knowledge that to unlock a skill, you need to use the weapon corresponding to the proffesion in which you have the required level to get the unlock. For example, if you hit level 50 in laser pistoleer hit while using a rifle, you wont unlock combat sense until you use a laser handgun and get a skill gain that contributes to laser pistoleer.
But this thread is to warn you that it also works the other way around:
I decided to chip out my shortblade skills. I have unlocked Martial Arts with Knifefighter, but I also had over level 20 in Swordsman Hit. To my surprise, I have lost Martial Arts after chipping out Shortblades, and got the message that I lost a level in Swordsman and am now level 19.
What this means is that the systems remembers with which proffesion you unlocked a certain skill. If you chip out that proffesion under the level required for the skill, it will automaticaly lock up and stop contributing to other proffesions. Only after that the systems checks if you still qualify for the locked skill, and you have to unlock the skill again by getting a skillgain in another proffesion where you still meet the requirements.
I just had to skill LB for 5 minutes to get Martial Arts back, since I was level 19.98 swordsman after it locked up again, but others might not be as lucky and have to chip up a different proffesion higher to get back the skills they thought they would keep.
I hope you get my point, its confusing when I read it, but Im too lazy to write it again now


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[arielos]

Thx for sharing it with us

Really strange...

[Rizzet]

sry... but either i dont get it or i think its obvious. If you skill until you unlock something for examlpe lvl 20 martial arts and then chip it out, then you loose that skill, and if you have above 20 on something that gives martial arts.. then its .... lol nvm i just understand what you said.. i give it out in numbers..

Longblade lvl = 4910
+
Martial Arts lvl = 1421
= lvl 20
(chip out shortblade,martial arts disapear)
= lvl 19.15 and you cant unlock it agian

[Nebu]

Originally Posted by Rizzet

sry... but either i dont get it or i think its obvious. If you skill until you unlock something for examlpe lvl 20 martial arts and then chip it out, then you loose that skill, and if you have above 20 on something that gives martial arts.. then its .... lol nvm i just understand what you said.. i give it out in numbers..

Longblade lvl = 4910
+
Martial Arts lvl = 1421
= lvl 20
(chip out shortblade,martial arts disapear)
= lvl 19.15 and you cant unlock it agian

Yup, thats what I mean. I added a screen now, hope it will help understand. Altho I had over level 20 in swordsman, I have lost Martial Arts because I unlocked it with Knifefighter and chipped my shortblade skill out.

[MRmP]

Did it remember the skillpoints too or did you start on 1skillpoint again?

[kosmos]

Seriously Once something is unlocked and you chip out and lose that skill you can't reunlock

Scarey.

[Nebu]

Originally Posted by MRmP

Did it remember the skillpoints too or did you start on 1skillpoint again?

As you can see in the screen, I still have 291 in MA. But as soon as I chipped out shortblades, the 291 skills stopped contributing to the other proffesions, therefore I didnt keep the unlock with swordsman, but had to skill back up to level 20. Then Martial Arts kicked in again.

[alh]

The problem is quite naturally that you need to be lvl 20 in the profession _without_the_unlocked_skill_counted_, to unlock the skill.

Since you needed some MA to get above 20 in swordsman, you infact have not yet unlocked it, so the skill is locked again.

It would actually be very strange if it worked in any other way.

[jdegre]

Originally Posted by alh

The problem is quite naturally that you need to be lvl 20 in the profession _without_the_unlocked_skill_counted_, to unlock the skill.

Since you needed some MA to get above 20 in swordsman, you infact have not yet unlocked it, so the skill is locked again.

It would actually be very strange if it worked in any other way.

yeah, i support that. an unlockable skill does not contribute to its own unlock level.

[Nebu]

Originally Posted by kosmos

Seriously Once something is unlocked and you chip out and lose that skill you can't reunlock

Scarey.

You can unlock it again immediately with a different proffesion, as long as it is still above the required level for it. You don't loose any skills here, you just might have to skill more or less get the skill back so it starts contributing to your proffesions again.