Question: Perception - are you a pidgeon????

[Fefe]

I'm a real pigeon...i follow those nasty perc skillgains...and I can tell you that most of the times it works for me.
On those runs when I don't get any perc I can be almost 100% sure that I won't get any global (or any bigger loot). That's my experience.
The pigeon of mine says that perc works differently at every mobs. There are ones that gives perc at short range and there are other ones that gives at wider range. So in my opinion it depends on the mob you hunt.

I can't really define perc's function in mining, because I don't have enough experience in it.

PS: The first time when I talked about my pigeonness to a friend of mine while we were doing a teamhunt he just said 'wow'...after every global we got after perc gains.... Since then he is also a "perc believer"


So...call me a pigeon...but I believe in it

[Sloe]

I can count thousands of perc gains that yielded nothing and a couple that worked, so i find it funny tbh Even funnier is when i see someone announce perc gain about 5-6 times and nail nothing, then one hunt out of a few ONE perc hit lands near a global or something and that makes it mean the perc did it?? nvm..... I have a hard time believing for even a second that MA woulda made it possible to predict loot in any way at all.

[Rumsponge]

Originally Posted by Lerxst

Most people that mine know that skills are more than just a reward for dropping a bomb and use them to their advantage. It's not a predictor but an indicator that "something is out there".

Actually, I am fairly certain that I know what you are talking about on the skill gains in general, and I think that I agree with you. However,the point that I was making was that, when skill gains do occur, it is in reaction to your having exercised an activity to which that skill applies. So, to me, the perception gain would have been in response to the action that you had just performed, not in anticipation of one that you may perform next.





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[Trina Xenophage]

You guys got me confused..

Should I believe in perception?
Should I believe in the threads that skills no longer matter?
Should I believe in the threads that higher skills actually mean something?

If perc works for you run with it..
If lootious works for you....
If nothing works for you...time to follow one of the above.

Vicious circle this thing called EU.

[Rumsponge]

The truth is out there.

[Ozi]

Originally Posted by Rumsponge

The truth is out there.

Maybe one day MA will tell us about perception just to have a laugh. I reckon they must watch these debates with amusement. I say each to their own and do whatever works - EU is designed to create superstitions and theories and I think it's a fun part of the EU experience to try to get an edge by whatever means you can.

[Immortal]

Originally Posted by Mornelius

Well, ignore perception at your own peril.

Lol, I believe that's what the christians spout now when trying to garner new funds for their evil activites, like wars in the middle east (still -_-)

Oh wait i'm not allowed to talk about politics or religion.

[Buck Wyld]

i sort of believe in it,

most, i said most not all the time, of the time it leads to something good, but you need to know when to give up and not keep trying to follow the perc

that being said, it really doesnt matter if its true or not, once we figure it out and MA reads that we did, it will be changed

lol

buck

[iatragenesis]

The good old perception debate

Ok i will weigh in with my opinion, observations & personal experiences.

As far as hunting goes i have had many very good runs where i have had absolutely no perception gains whatsover during the entire hunt. This includes globals & large hofs.
I have had many hunts where i have repeated & constant perception gains & had nothing but crap loot.
I have had many hunts where i have had repeated & constant perception gains & have had great loot.
I have had many hunts where i have had one or several perception gains & had some good loot.

My conclusion: Perception gains may point to loot being close at hand but you don't always get a perception gain when there is loot & lots of it about.
As stated above i have had large loots when i have not received a single gain the entire hunt.

I think the reality of it is people unobjectively looking for patterns where none exist.

There are some other threads/examples that demonstrate how we sheeple love to try & find order in chaos.

Add the gambling element, mix some good old irrational thinking & flawed logic....grab a large hammer & bash repeatedly & hey presto.....the perception gain loot theory was born

[Echo Biatch]

I seem to be seeing the same thing over and over perc=loot

For those who are stuck on the whole perc means only loot please go back and read Sirhc's post again...

I will swear by perception when mining but will also explain a thing I learnt over my 10's of 1000's of bombs I have dropped...

Perception can lead you to someone elses Tower..... proven this over and over.

If it can lead me to the tower it can lead me to the claim :P

Pardon me while I go and pick up my pigeon suit from the cleaners it is time to go mining.