Which skills gives the most health... And how much?

[Witte]

I have a spreatsheet with the skills of 25 people. When I process this data in matlab, I get negative values for allot of skills. So I anyone can explain me how I can prevent matlab from using negative values, it might end up with somthing usefull. For now it doesnt make any sense.

[AkiranBlade]

Originally Posted by Vedder

I think that Stamina works for us, just like it does for mobs: It's 10% of the HPs, but unlike mobs, we can increase our HP even though Stamina is not updated. It just stays at the value we were 'born with', like for mobs.
But again... A theory which is hard to prove, unless someone someday gains a Stamina point.

Yes, that is what I meant by we already know Stamina is linked to HP.

The reason for me having this unsubstantiated theory is that it's been said that people have chipped everything out and have been left with some HP over the top of 90. Which leaves you thinking. I mean, Stamina must serve some purpose. It could be that peoples base HP is growing anyway but our 'visible' stamina isn't being updated yet.

[demoniac]

Originally Posted by AkiranBlade

Yes, that is what I meant by we already know Stamina is linked to HP.

The reason for me having this unsubstantiated theory is that it's been said that people have chipped everything out and have been left with some HP over the top of 90. Which leaves you thinking. I mean, Stamina must serve some purpose. It could be that peoples base HP is growing anyway but our 'visible' stamina isn't being updated yet.

Possible but more likely is that stamina just isn't implemented yet for avatars and you have a small amount of HP left from your attributes in general. A friend of mine tested the theory that attributes give health and with 120 agility and no skills he was left with 4 extra HP (I don't know what value his other attributes were at.)

[AkiranBlade]

Originally Posted by demoniac

Possible but more likely is that stamina just isn't implemented yet for avatars and you have a small amount of HP left from your attributes in general. A friend of mine tested the theory that attributes give health and with 120 agility and no skills he was left with 4 extra HP (I don't know what value his other attributes were at.)

Yes, this opens the possibility for 2 things.

120 Agility and only 4HP left either means:

a) Agility gives 1 hp per 25 Agility

or..

b) Even some of the most skilled have not passed the 50% mark in base HP which therefore means noone has incremented the Stamina to 10. Or it only rounds up @ 9.95 or there is no rounding. It's hard to tell what MA do and don't round up sometimes. HP they don't, hit ability they do, stackables they don't but we can't be sure about Stamina.

[Witte]

Originally Posted by AkiranBlade

b) Even some of the most skilled have not passed the 50% mark in base HP which therefore means noone has incremented the Stamina to 10. Or it only rounds up @ 9.95 or there is no rounding. It's hard to tell what MA do and don't round up sometimes. HP they don't, hit ability they do, stackables they don't but we can't be sure about Stamina.

This cant be because:

a) I never seen a stamina gain in the chat.
b) the yellow bar under the stamina that show your progress to the next level is still empty.

[AkiranBlade]

Originally Posted by Witte

This cant be because:

a) I never seen a stamina gain in the chat.
b) the yellow bar under the stamina that show your progress to the next level is still empty.

It could be part of these hidden skills. It could all be implemented but just not visually so.

[kygon]

Originally Posted by AkiranBlade

Yes, this opens the possibility for 2 things.

120 Agility and only 4HP left either means:

a) Agility gives 1 hp per 25 Agility

i think this sounds plausable, my diciple chiped alot after grauation he was expecting more HP out of the 'set' of chips than he got, I've also heard a few uber player speculating on agility giving HP

[Vedder]

Originally Posted by AkiranBlade

Yes, this opens the possibility for 2 things.

120 Agility and only 4HP left either means:

a) Agility gives 1 hp per 25 Agility

or..

b) Even some of the most skilled have not passed the 50% mark in base HP which therefore means noone has incremented the Stamina to 10. Or it only rounds up @ 9.95 or there is no rounding. It's hard to tell what MA do and don't round up sometimes. HP they don't, hit ability they do, stackables they don't but we can't be sure about Stamina.

or..
c) Attributes does not give HP, but we have some hidden HP giving skills that we ofc can't chip out.

Originally Posted by Witte

This cant be because:
a) I never seen a stamina gain in the chat.
b) the yellow bar under the stamina that show your progress to the next level is still empty.

In support of Blades theory you could say that: You have never seen HP gains (except when you gain a HP) and you have never seen the bar move below HP either.
It could be the same with Stamina, except that noone has gained a full Stamina point yet. (still not the most likely theory imo)

[AkiranBlade]

Originally Posted by Vedder

or..
c) Attributes does not give HP, but we have some hidden HP giving skills that we ofc can't chip out.


In support of Blades theory you could say that: You have never seen HP gains (except when you gain a HP) and you have never seen the bar move below HP either.
It could be the same with Stamina, except that noone has gained a full Stamina point yet. (still not the most likely theory imo)

Yeah I just think that a likely 'hidden' skill is in fact Stamina.

[AkiranBlade]

Originally Posted by kygon

i think this sounds plausable, my diciple chiped alot after grauation he was expecting more HP out of the 'set' of chips than he got, I've also heard a few uber player speculating on agility giving HP

Then where did the other 90 come from with only 20 agility , 20 psyche, 20 intell and 20 strength?