Chipping Out: Different skills "worth" more?

[Morri]

I had a 17ped ESI and was trying to determine what skill I was going to put into it. I was able to put all my Athletics into it (over 2300), yet when I tried to see how much Evade I could put into it, I was only able to put 478 out of 2600. First Aid, I could put in 1818 out of 1819, but Anatomy, only 172 out of 4500. Longblades, 1800 out of 1801, but Laser Weapon Technology only 721 out of 2700.

Needless to say, I'm very, very confused. Why would I not be able to put in close to the same amount of Athletics, LWT or Evade, when they're at about the same level? Are LWT and Evade worth "more" than Athletics?

[Kiara]

well 17 PED total TT on an ESI only leaves you with 7PED to work with as the ESI TT cap is 10 PED.
Explained:

Once the ESI TT reaches 10PED it destroys and gives you PEDs not another ESI.

Now for the stats.
This is a chart for total "useable" ESI TT Value for a set number of skills.

Skill Level Skill Chip TT
0 0
100 0.07
200 0.25
300 0.47
400 0.72
500 1.02
600 1.36
700 1.73
800 2.14
900 2.6
1000 3.09
1100 3.62
1200 4.18
1300 4.79
1400 5.44
1500 6.12
1600 6.84
1700 7.6
1800 8.4
1900 9.24
2000 10.12
2100 11.88
2200 12.87
2300 14.02
2400 15.32
2500 16.78
2750 21.06
3000 26.29
3250 32.55
3500 39.96
3750 48.71
4000 59
4250 71.06
4500 85.15
4750 101.54
5000 120.48
5250 142.25
5500 167.07
5750 195.16
6000 226.72
6250 261.87
6500 300.71
6750 343.27
7000 389.51
7250 439.33
7500 492.52
7750 548.79
8000 607.76
8250 668.92
8500 731.64
8750 795.17
9000 858.64
9250 921
9500 981.08
9750 1037.52
10000 1088.81
10250 1142.39
10500 1211.61
10750 1280.81
11000 1350
11250 1423.64
11500 1492.86
11750 1562.06
12000 1631.25
12250 1704.89
12500 1774.11
12750 1843.31
13000 1912.5
13250 1986.14
13500 2055.36
13750 2124.56
14000 2193.75
14250 2267.39
14500 2336.61
14750 2405.81


and that is why you could only put so much in.

[Knakker]

I was under the impression that the ESI could be used to the last peds in TT value.
Only when you get under the 10 ped and don't fully use it, no ESI with the remaining unused value will be returned, but the value in peds will.

So in this case the 17 ped is fully usable.
Only when you fill it for instance with 8 ped skill, you'll get 9 peds back and not an 9 ped ESI.

Correct me if I'm wrong in my thoughts about this.
Rap

ps, nice skill table

[Nebu]

I think the poster was asking for something different.
It is interesting to see you can put more LWT than evade on the chip, even when you have more levels in LWT. It should be the other way around.
Unfortunately I have no answer for you, as I have never chipped out myself, but I hope someone else can answer this.

[Mega]

All 17ped of a 17ped ESI is usable to fill skills.

HOWEVER, make sure that when you get close to the 10 ped TT mark, that you FILL the chip completely with a 2000 skill (approx) chip, or you will get the rest as ped and pec.



EDIT:

1-> 2000 of a skill = (very roughly) 2000 ->2600 both around 10ped TT value

2000 evade skill will fill a chip to the same amount as 2000 athletics. As to "worth" well 2000 evade is worth nearly double 2000 athletics in terms of ped value.

Hope this makes sense.

[Kiara]

if thats true then its the newest VU cause I did some chipping 1 VU back ( when they introduced the new system ) and i would fill my chips max and still would get the ped back

[BruuD]

I think your findings are wrong.
Doesnt matter what skills you put on a chip, it's all worth the same in TT value

[silvernight]

LWT is so no liked to skill, you dont even get back what the esi cost when you sell the skills =/ I do get the normal skills and thoght yippi I might chip out LWT (since i have 2100 now). But i get about 149 Ped for a 12.5 chip. And that chip cost me 157 Ped.

Someone knows what to do? =/

[BruuD]

Originally Posted by silvernight

Someone knows what to do? =/

Don't sell and hope ESI price goes down some day.
(wich means hope that MA drops more ESI)

[Doer]

Short answer: no.

All the skills you named fill a chip the same amount per level if you start with the same level. I'm not sure what you did to get the results you are describing, but you made a mistake somewhere. In general any skill that is at a higher level will take less levels to fill an ESI. Also, you can fill it up to very nearly the last bit of tt value and you will just get back the difference between the chip tt from the last level you can fit on it (eg if you start from 9000 of a skill and are going to put 1000 levels onto the chip, the next level (7999) of the skill fills a chip 1.5 tt when you have 1.4 tt remaining on the chip, so it will not let you put that level onto the chip and you will get it back as peds). I'm not sure if that last example made sense but basically i'm saying that if you are putting skills onto a chip from high levels (and ending at high levels) you tend to get back larger chunks of change because the next increment won't fit on the chip and the granularity is larger at high levels.

I recently bought some LWT from someone and got back the chip and 14 pecs change, i believe. Before the 8.8.2 VU i chipped out a full (old ESI=12.5 tt?) of handgun and also got back something less than 30 pecs, and several months ago i chipped out a full ESI and got similar result.

Ah and that list Kiara gave is from before 8.8: it's much much more tt for 10k skills now.