Defense Skills; OR, everything you ever wanted to know about Evade but were too lazy to search for

[Doer]

Originally Posted by thoreau

At what distance to the mob can one gain evade?

When the mob is 50m away? 10m away?

Does evade increase faster the close to the mob? I 'feel' like I gain evade faster when I use a shortblade (3m range) than a longblade (4m range.)

Defensive skills are gained by evading, so they only come when a mob is within attack range, whatever that might be for the mob. I don't expect that distance matters once within range.

[AkiranBlade]

I've just read this article for the first time. Good work.

However, as someone mentioned earlier, Combat Sense does contribute to the Evader and Dodger professional standings.

When I inserted 5k Combat Sense (from nigh on 0) I think I gained about 3 ranks (or 300 levels) of Evader ranking. Unfortunately the before and after screenshot I had I cannot seem to locate.

If I can find it I will share.

[AkiranBlade]

And here it is folks.

[wizzszz]

Originally Posted by AkiranBlade

I've just read this article for the first time. Good work.

However, as someone mentioned earlier, Combat Sense does contribute to the Evader and Dodger professional standings.

When I inserted 5k Combat Sense (from nigh on 0) I think I gained about 3 ranks (or 300 levels) of Evader ranking. Unfortunately the before and after screenshot I had I cannot seem to locate.

If I can find it I will share.

Look here for the known evader breakdown so far.

[AkiranBlade]

Originally Posted by wizzszz

Look here for the known evader breakdown so far.

The point of my post is that Doer's opening post mentions nothing of Combat Sense in the listing of skills, nor is it mentioned in along with the unlocks like Quickness and Intuition.

Combat Sense, I believe, is the reason why some people have unlocked Avoidance very early (sub 3.5k Evade.)

[trung]

Do Strength,bravado and something like that affect to defense or not??
And do they make the decay on armor less than??

[Witte]

Originally Posted by AkiranBlade

The point of my post is that Doer's opening post mentions nothing of Combat Sense in the listing of skills, nor is it mentioned in along with the unlocks like Quickness and Intuition.

Combat Sense, I believe, is the reason why some people have unlocked Avoidance very early (sub 3.5k Evade.)

uhum,

The other 19 percent comes from the unlocked skills associated with defense like Quickness and hunting skills like Combat Sense.

[AkiranBlade]

Originally Posted by Witte

uhum,

It was late.. I missed that

[kingjehu]

bump

A bump for those of us who haven't seen this excellent thread yet!

[Aske]

Nice graphs and data.

Questions i have are (maybe someone did experiments) whether anything else besides evade and mob type influences mob hit rate. In specific:

* do you get hit less if you move a little bit (e.g. walk backwards) as mob hits you? (without running faster than mob)

* do you get hit less if you damage mob -- it might be a coincidence but to me it always felt like once i start fapping (instead of hitting mob) i get hit more often.

* what happens if 2 of same mobs hit you at the same time -- do you get hit 2x more on average?

* Does successful mob hit rate depend on how heavy you are?