Impact of skills on professions

[PrinceYumil]

Sorry, I tried to explain my second question as clearly as possible, but I guess I was unable to. I'm not asking about chance of success, I know all about how that works. I'm asking about output PER SUCCESS. In other words if me and buzz both do one click on the same blueprint, both on condition (or both on quantity), and we both get a success, will his success be on average higher TT value than mine? Or will they on average be the same?

[Doer]

1- No, metallurgy does not contribute to mining professional standings. I have checked this, and i believe others have, too. There are some who maintain that its does affect mining (ie like you're talking about with engineering), even though it plays no role in the pro. standings.

2- I really doubt this. If it worked that way it really would be a pyramid scheme and it wouldn't really fit with the way everything else (other professions) work. Regarding what Pretender is saying: i believe NZR (possibly most skilled crafter in game) said that his COS bar was very slightly closer to the top on quantity, but except for that one case, the only thing i've ever heard any crafter report is that the higher skills get you higher COS (up to the limit) with lower QR on a bp. In other words, once you have a BP "maxed" on quantity, there is no further advantage from skills. Yes, the rumors continue to fly about engineering raising tt return. I haven't seen anyone show proof.

[Jimmy B]

As Doer says, we've pretty solidly proven that Metallurgy doesn't contribute anything to the mining profession levels.

Originally Posted by Doer

Any response from them on that point, Jimmy?

I got a "Thanks for mentioning this - we've passed it on to the design team" type response.

[Jimmy B]

Our 'man on the street' (or convention as the case may be), who'll remain anonymous unless he chooses to post, has identified the final mindforce skill to be:

Mindforce Fusion.

Don't know if anyone apart from MA avatars has it yet, I guess not.

[steffel]

Originally Posted by Jimmy B

Our 'man on the street' (or convention as the case may be), who'll remain anonymous unless he chooses to post, has identified the final mindforce skill to be:

Mindforce Fusion.

Don't know if anyone apart from MA avatars has it yet, I guess not.

to make it clear i dont live on the street



all convention avatars had 1k in any skill, the 2nd from the right in the lower row is the skill called mf fusion. there are no other unlocks in mindforce and also no other unlockable skills which are not known yet, so none in taming and nothing but beauty sense in beauty.

[Jimmy B]

Thanks Steffel and lol I didn't mean to imply you lived on the street

And just saw your vid in the sig, cracked me up lol

[Doer]

Originally Posted by Jimmy B

Hmm, yes. I only tested it briefly so I may have been wrong, but skill gains in neither SWS nor EPWT appeared to allow me to fap.

Weapons Handling still contributes HP though.

My results in progressing through hp gains (here) support this conclusion. At the time of gaining the 149th hp, i had 340 Support Weapon Systems skill, which should have (at a minimum) contributed 0.21 HP -- if it contributes at all -- but it appears not to.

Edit: that Support weapon skill was gained since the first (147) hp recorded, so the effect should have been noticeable in this progression.

[jdegre]

Originally Posted by steffel

to make it clear i dont live on the street



all convention avatars had 1k in any skill, the 2nd from the right in the lower row is the skill called mf fusion. there are no other unlocks in mindforce and also no other unlockable skills which are not known yet, so none in taming and nothing but beauty sense in beauty.

there is another thread claiming that this new skill is called "Force Merge", not "Mindforce Fusion". So, which one is right?

[Doer]

Originally Posted by jdegre

there is another thread claiming that this new skill is called "Force Merge", not "Mindforce Fusion". So, which one is right?

Seeing is believing. I'm not sure where Mindforce Fusion came from, but having actually seen Force Merge on an avatar's skills list is rather conclusive IMO.

Use the force, Luke!

[steffel]

Originally Posted by jdegre

there is another thread claiming that this new skill is called "Force Merge", not "Mindforce Fusion". So, which one is right?

merge fusion whats the difference...err well could be my memory failed me and i got it wrong...sorry