Impact of skills on professions

[Jimmy B]

Originally Posted by jdegre

got some help from an uber, who kindly sent me some uber-data

this is what i got regarding intuition:

Psychotropian (Hit): 3%
Pyrotropian (Hit): 3%
Biotropian: 3%
Reviver: 3%
Teleporter: 2%

(already added to chipping optimizer).

also confirmed that the current %'s breakdown for evader and dodger is correct (there was a controversy around evader and high-intuition avas, but the data i received was accurate up to +- 0.01 for a >5k intuition ava).

Nice one jdegre. New percentages added on the appropriate pages. Thanks for confirming the old evader/dodger numbers too.

Quite interesting how Intuition contributes to the MF ones too. Presumably then it can also be unlocked with MF. That's quite a lot of Mindforce unlocks, MF Harmony (50 Hit?), Force Merge (70 Hit?), Intuition (80 Hit?).

Getting to lvl 80 Evader though, how is it done? Did it evade related stuff use to skill faster naturally, or has everyone who's got it chipped in? Going by my skill gain rate, even if I'd been logged in continually since Project Entropia's first day I wouldn't have reached it yet.

[Thorn]

Great thread I just found it. Sure to be a great help to people! Thanks for the work of which I am usually to lazy or time constrained to do.

[Vedder]

Originally Posted by Jimmy B

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Getting to lvl 80 Evader though, how is it done? Did it evade related stuff use to skill faster naturally, or has everyone who's got it chipped in? Going by my skill gain rate, even if I'd been logged in continually since Project Entropia's first day I wouldn't have reached it yet.

Evade was ofc also affected by the big skill gain nerf (and the smaller ones before that)...

But most important part I think, is that it used to be possible to afk skill with a mod fap and a big group of mobs. Some people with very high evade/dodge and medic skills are quite (in)famous for doing this day in and day out.

[Jimmy B]

Originally Posted by Vedder

Evade was ofc also affected by the big skill gain nerf (and the smaller ones before that)...

But most important part I think, is that it used to be possible to afk skill with a mod fap and a big group of mobs. Some people with very high evade/dodge and medic skills are quite (in)famous for doing this day in and day out.

Yeah, think I just fancied having a whine at the impossibility of ever getting there now Chipping Optimiser reckons I could have chipped to my current Evader proffesion standing at the cost of $750 and that to progress to unlocking intuition would cost a mere $35215 more

[Raffaele Meiers]

Originally Posted by Jimmy B

Yeah, think I just fancied having a whine at the impossibility of ever getting there now Chipping Optimiser reckons I could have chipped to my current Evader proffesion standing at the cost of $750 and that to progress to unlocking intuition would cost a mere $35215 more

So you see what present some players got by MA besides the mod fap etc. etc. etc.

[jdegre]

i don't think we are making this outstanding thread a favor if we start complaining about how ubers gained their uber-ness unfairly, instead of celebrating that we are closer and closer to solve all professions.
so, may i propose to get back to work, and focus on solving the texture professions instead???

[Jimmy B]

Originally Posted by jdegre

i don't think we are making this outstanding thread a favor if we start complaining about how ubers gained their uber-ness unfairly, instead of celebrating that we are closer and closer to solve all professions.
so, may i propose to get back to work, and focus on solving the texture professions instead???

Agreed jdegre, sorry my fault. It wasn't my intention to bring up old players who've gotten a great head start, more was having a small grumble at how slow it is to skill that particular profession these days. Without the players who were there on day 1 there'd be no EU now, I don't have any issue with them having a nice headstart.

Anyway yes, it'd be great to solve the texture professions. I guess the skills involved are rather expensive ones to chip, so unless someone is planning to chip some of them, the easiest way forward is probably for people who have a reasonable amount of the relevant skills to upload their skills to wiki using the skill scanner (or just post the relevant skill levels here) and post a picture of the relevant profession screens here.

The reason its taken a long time to get anywhere on this I guess, is that we need quite a few data sets really, and obviously there's not a huge number of people skilling those professions. But as soon as the data starts rolling in I'll happily get to work!

[wizzszz]

Nadie chipped out huge amounts of texturizing related skills, too bad we had no thread to collect chipping data by then. So, who's gonna start one?

And i have first data for Material Comprehension: ~ 7%
(estimated, pro standing taken from % of a higher SIB so +/-0.05 Levels)

[Jimmy B]

Originally Posted by wizzszz

And i have first data for Material Comprehension: ~ 7%
(estimated, pro standing taken from % of a higher SIB so +/-0.05 Levels)

Sorry wizz don't quite understand the bracketted part - how did you get the estimate exactly?

[wizzszz]

Originally Posted by Jimmy B

Sorry wizz don't quite understand the bracketted part - how did you get the estimate exactly?

I'll send you an email later with some screenies.
Calced it wrong anyway, 108 points = 0.15 pro standing levels isn't 7%, but more like 14%.

Note to self: No math when tired.


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