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Old 06-03-2008, 01:45   #271
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My pro standing bar suffered a bit from the jpeg compression, not sure why EF doesn't support .png files.
Because 'they are susceptible to exploitation' 711 told me. He considers GIF a satisfactory substitute.

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And didn't Doer already nail Engineering down to 20%?
Yes, with a chip. There's no doubt about that one.

I can post my skills and pro standing if someone wants to back out the results. I have had frustrating results lately trying to do that, probably due to a lot of incorrect data on wiki (avatar skill data).
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Not really sure about Material designer....
I "unlocked" it in my professions when grinding Material manufacturer and hitting level 2.5.
I am not really sure if it is strictly tailoring related, have not done much of that but I level it. Then again, you also level tailoring with material manufacturing.
Also the wiki is surely wrong about intelligence part in material manufacturer, I had several skill ups while grinding, impact was not really noticable though.
I would assume about 30 skill ups in intelligence to get a generic leather BP up to QR80 and they gave me maybe all in all 1/2 level in INT.
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Since Doer's chip already showed engineering was 20%, my data shows that Intelligence cannot be anything other than 0%.

So if you get Intelligence gains that's pretty interesting.
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Since Doer's chip already showed engineering was 20%, my data shows that Intelligence cannot be anything other than 0%.

So if you get Intelligence gains that's pretty interesting.
yeah, my results confirm that too!
engineering 20% -> intel 0%

if we were certain that intel > 0%, then the possibilities are:

with intel at 1% -> engineering 18%
(intel at 2%) -> no matches
with intel at 3% -> engineering 15%

but, i'll trust doer's data and i'll set intel at 0% and engineering at 20%.
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i have tried to match wizzszz data. from what i see in the jpg, the bar is 25 pixels wide, so the progress is (25-1)/124 -> 0.19, so material manufacturer level would be 4.19.

from more than 136 million permutations, there is only one match for the 5 data sets i have (within 0.01 precision):

{0, 36, 7, 5, 13, 1, 20, 1}

but these %'s don't look good at all. so, i have widened the precision to 0.02 for the 5 data sets, and widened the offset a bit for some skills, and i've got 16 matches from 175 million permutations.

we're getting closer and closer
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yeah, my results confirm that too!
engineering 20% -> intel 0%

if we were certain that intel > 0%, then the possibilities are:

with intel at 1% -> engineering 18%
(intel at 2%) -> no matches
with intel at 3% -> engineering 15%

but, i'll trust doer's data and i'll set intel at 0% and engineering at 20%.
Just, so I can understand it....
intel and engineering are connected?
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Just, so I can understand it....
intel and engineering are connected?
no, no... it is only the results after trying to find matches for all the data sets. if i set engineering at 20%, they only way to find matches for the data i have, is to set intel at 0%. no other way.
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9 and 20/124 is my Mat. Manufacturer level.

The skill set that goes with that will be on wiki in a minute. Hopefully this can resolve the int issue.
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9 and 20/124 is my Mat. Manufacturer level.

The skill set that goes with that will be on wiki in a minute. Hopefully this can resolve the int issue.
including doer's data, only 2 matches from 175 million permutations:

{ 0, 33, 7, 4, 12, 4, 20, 8 }

{ 0, 33, 7, 6, 13, 1, 20, 7 }


we're almost there
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i have tried to match wizzszz data. from what i see in the jpg, the bar is 25 pixels wide, so the progress is (25-1)/124 -> 0.19, so material manufacturer level would be 4.19.
Refresh my memory as to why you're doing (25-1)/124 and not 25/124?

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including doer's data, only 2 matches from 175 million permutations:

{ 0, 33, 7, 4, 12, 4, 20, 8 }

{ 0, 33, 7, 6, 13, 1, 20, 7 }


we're almost there

Nice - one more ava should do it then! Although I'm already putting my money on the first. 1% Tailoring seems unlikely to me.
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Refresh my memory as to why you're doing (25-1)/124 and not 25/124?
Oops, i missed that. What's that all about?

I exclude the first pixel (always black) when i count the pixels. Is that the same thing you're doing?
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