Impact of skills on professions

[wizzszz]

Originally Posted by Jimmy B

wizz I will dig it all out I should still have everything hidden away somewhere

But probably will be after Saturday WoF now.

Sure, take your time, it's been unresolved for quite a while now, few days won't make a difference

And jdegre, you maybe missed my post, as i've unfortunately posted my results on percentage loss on chipping out directly after some other stuff: Impact of skills on professions

[jdegre]

Originally Posted by wizzszz

Sure, take your time, it's been unresolved for quite a while now, few days won't make a difference

And jdegre, you maybe missed my post, as i've unfortunately posted my results on percentage loss on chipping out directly after some other stuff: Impact of skills on professions

so, regarding the ESI loss, the idea is to change the % from 10% to 10.527%, right?. the only thing would be to maybe double check that result, so see if it is consistent, or maybe it varies somewhat.

then, if this value is consistent, adding it to the tools is just a matter of seconds. (just note that the error introduced by the skills->TT aproximation is higher than that, but in any case, if we know that the real value is 10.527%, and not 10%, there's no reason to keep the wrong value).


on the material professions topic, i received additional data from avas with levels around ~15 in both professions, and the current formulas (already in chipping optimizer) predicted their levels within 0.01 precision.

so, now what we need is data from:

avas with surface composition unlocked, but no other higher unlocks (i.e. no quality sense)


sorry for shouting...
so, ask around your soc mates, and make them report their skills and profession levels.

[Immortal]

Originally Posted by jdegre

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I am 1.3 lvl texturizer (yes began when I got bored and haven't been able to manage a stable line connection due to a storm+rain damaging my line :( so haven't got any higher) but will be there soon enough :)

[Jimmy B]

Nice going guys, I'll update the posts on page 12 or whatever it was when I get a chance

[wizzszz]

Originally Posted by jdegre

so, regarding the ESI loss, the idea is to change the % from 10% to 10.527%, right?. the only thing would be to maybe double check that result, so see if it is consistent, or maybe it varies somewhat.

then, if this value is consistent, adding it to the tools is just a matter of seconds. (just note that the error introduced by the skills->TT aproximation is higher than that, but in any case, if we know that the real value is 10.527%, and not 10%, there's no reason to keep the wrong value).

I did that mostly out of curiosity, because i noticed that it isn't exactly 10% a while ago, and the ingame warning message says "you will lose approx. 10%"

Wasn't much effort to have a first rough direction, not sure why it's such an odd number though. An even 10.5% would have been more than just one milliPEC off, so this is not because of rounding.

Maybe anyone else can post another set of numbers, not going to chip out more of my valueable skills in the near future

However, i'm aware it's not a big deal, but it will lessen the accumulative error and the effort to tweak the percentages in the tools out there should be minimal, didn't want to make a lot of fuss about almost nothing, so i posted it here instead of starting a separate thread.

[jdegre]

i've received additional data from an ava who just unlocked material extraction methodology at level 5 in material manufacturer, and the current %'s predicted a level of 5.00 sharp for her skill set.

so, that's great news... now only the very very high level unlocks remain unsolved for this profession. so, more data is still welcome from uber-crafters.

[Jimmy B]

Nice jdegre, sounds good.

[Falco]

Projectile Launcher Engineer

Originally Posted by Jimmy B

Intelligence*20   2%
BPC              28%
EPWT              9%
Machinery         6%
Manufacture Weps  9%
Wep Tech          9%
Engineering      26%
Industrialist     6%
Manufactng Meth   5%

Industrialist and Manufacturing Meth are guesses based on similar professions - I have no data to back those up. The rest I'm pretty sure about.

Are you sure with the values for Blueprint Comprehension (28%) and Manufacture Weapons (9%)? All other Engineer values (Gauss Weapon Enginner, Laser Weapons Engineer) have much higher values for Manufacture Engineer than for BPC.

[Jimmy B]

Originally Posted by Falco

Projectile Launcher Engineer


Are you sure with the values for Blueprint Comprehension (28%) and Manufacture Weapons (9%)? All other Engineer values (Gauss Weapon Enginner, Laser Weapons Engineer) have much higher values for Manufacture Engineer than for BPC.

Yep we thought it was odd at the time, but we checked it pretty thoroughly if I recall right.

I even in the end sent MA a support case asking them if they'd got the percentages the wrong way round. They said everything was as intended.

So I think its correct, no need to revisit it unless someone is seeing their profession levels coming out wrong.

[Falco]

Originally Posted by Jimmy B

I even in the end sent MA a support case asking them if they'd got the percentages the wrong way round. They said everything was as intended.

My guess: they made it wrong way round, but can't admit...
But, however, the % is like it is now. Thanks for your answer.