Mission: Commando

[jdegre]

Originally Posted by ~ thebuzz ~

Just bought an 76.55ped Weapon Handling chip (a bit more than required...)

Before implant:
5599

After implant:
6009

And got to Laser Pistoleer rank 67.3

And it suggests:

in case you're wondering why the tool recommends chipping more WH when you already took a chip bigger than needed, it is caused by the slowdowns and speedups of the skill level->tt function, which confuses the algorithm as discussed in the chipping tool's thread.

in any case, in this last chipping you can ignore chipping more WH if you want, by unchecking its checkbox, and you'll see that the difference in price is around 100 ped from the 11k ped total, which is lower than 1%, and within the expected error margin.

also, as slither points out, you should consider if certain skills are more useful than others for your own purposes: chipping more handgun will give you maybe 1 extra hp, but LWT will raise your (dmg) also. this cross-profession optimizations should be a feature that the tool should do, but it is quite complex and i never find the time to implement it...

[Fjolla]

Originally Posted by slither

Don't forget that LWT also helps a lot towards dam%, I think it could be wise to dump a big chip of LWT in before getting anymore handgun.

Exactly my thought!

[~ thebuzz ~]

Adding LWT

7611
to
7688

34.30 ped esi.

[Fjolla]

Originally Posted by ~ thebuzz ~

Adding LWT

7611
to
7688

34.30 ped esi.

Keep it LWT'ish

[~ thebuzz ~]

Originally Posted by slither

Don't forget that LWT also helps a lot towards dam%, I think it could be wise to dump a big chip of LWT in before getting anymore handgun.

Originally Posted by Fjolla

Exactly my thought!

Hmm, well it amazes me - that after chunking those 30'ish ped lwt into the ava - I need to get an even larger HG chip than the 452ped esi initially suggested

[jdegre]

Originally Posted by ~ thebuzz ~

Hmm, well it amazes me - that after chunking those 30'ish ped lwt into the ava - I need to get an even larger HG chip than the 452ped esi initially suggested

see my last post.
that's the way the optimization algorithm works and it's ok. everytime you change your skills and recalculate, the algorithm _may_ find a different route giving different weights to each skill, as long as the total cost is kept as low as possible.

[~ thebuzz ~]

Originally Posted by jdegre

see my last post.
that's the way the optimization algorithm works and it's ok. everytime you change your skills and recalculate, the algorithm _may_ find a different route giving different weights to each skill, as long as the total cost is kept as low as possible.

Its just strange that before adding 34.30 ped weaponry technology I had to pay:
452ped handgun and
10 ped laser weaponry technology

After chipping 34.30 ped weaponry technology it says
475ped handgun...

[kygon]

Originally Posted by ~ thebuzz ~

Adding LWT

7611
to
7688

34.30 ped esi.

god if ur at 7.5k eat more LWT , it only really gets painfull if you try and chip over 9k

I found it best to ignore the skill gain and simply check ur prof levels when eating chips these days lol

[jdegre]

Originally Posted by ~ thebuzz ~

Its just strange that before adding 34.30 ped weaponry technology I had to pay:
452ped handgun and
10 ped laser weaponry technology

After chipping 34.30 ped weaponry technology it says
475ped handgun...

as i said, this is an effect of the speedups and slowdown of the skill->tt function. it has been discussed in other threads, and the consequences are that the total cost calculated by the algorithm sits within an error margin of around 1-2%; this means that, if the tool estimated that the minimal cost to reach certain target is, say, ~10k, you could have gotten it for 9.9k by choosing a different route. not a big deal, really.

there are ways to improve the algorithm to overcome this issue, but it is computationally very very expensive, and it is not worth it, since there are other factors where other errors of similar magnitude are introduced, such as the approximation of the skill->tt function itself, and also the price at which you end up buying the actual chips.

/jdegre.

[~ thebuzz ~]

Added 101.91 ped LWT

Up from 7690 to 7918 - but no visible gain in professional standing