Do the level of skills matters in getting good or bad loot?

[Larethania]

Now adays its obvious that it is just random cause of all the snable young kerberos young and so on huge hofs

[kz1975]

Originally Posted by milwal

Sorry if this is slightly off topic however imho.

As we all know the gambling commission in Sweden classified EU as a non gambling entity.

I would therefore suggest that the amount of money you actually spend with MA has an almost direct influence on what loot/PED amounts you receive.
Many times I have added purchased 50,000 ammo from a TT and within the space of 5 to 10 mins of hunting received 1 or 2 globals. I realise we dont want to hear this as it kinda spoils the fun in the game however this is tied to TT values only as anything over TT value is generated by the players market.

i.e You purchase to a value of 1000ped (TT value) then MA decide on a percentage of that 1000ped (which will probably be a fixed % value) for arguments sake we will say 80% therfore 1000ped spent with MA they give you back 80% (in loot) of 1000ped which is 800ped (we wish:-)

Nice post! I think this is a right!

[JasonJJ]

Originally Posted by Egg90

Same as above, no, higher skills just mean it will cost you less to get that loot.

Pretty much spot on, it does'nt matter about your skill levels you still receive the same loot if it was that higher skilled players did get more loot it would make EU unfair. Having more skills just means you spend less on decay and making you able to kill mobs, craft and mine more efficiently.

Many times I have added purchased 50,000 ammo from a TT and within the space of 5 to 10 mins of hunting received 1 or 2 globals.

Now this i am unsure off, there has been a few times i have deposited then soon after i get a couple of globals i think this is probably down to luck.

JJ

[InDaHouse]

That guy aint exactly spouting bull when he says that your skill affects your size of ESI found....... Technicaly you are both right lol

If you have highers skill you can hunt bigger mobs so far only mobs i've seen only 2 mobs that dropped an ESI bigger that the normal 10-19 ped Neconu and Aurli. You need higher skills to hunt these lol or just lots of good armour and weapons with no skill but that will cost you.

[Immortal]

Originally Posted by InDaHouse

If you have highers skill you can hunt bigger mobs so far only mobs i've seen only 2 mobs that dropped an ESI bigger that the normal 10-19 ped Neconu and Aurli. You need higher skills to hunt these lol or just lots of good armour and weapons with no skill but that will cost you.

I looted recently
163 PEd esi : Berycled Prowler
65 PED esi: Atrox Provider

Just need good evade
And be a crazy 80-90hr a week hunter

[AtamiKiangola]

The never-ending or ever-lasting discussion seems to have no end
One last attempt

1) Relative skill grades balance influences loot

a) I doubt I'm the only how who sees it so obviously when mining where the number if skils involved are minimal.

b) The lower the amount of skills you have to faster the "relative" cycles move. The higher the skills the slower, so a bad period is harder to bridge ... bigger cumulated losses (?) ... bigger (see 5).

2) Amount of hunting or mining or crafting in an area affect it too ofc.
No loot in an area will not give you an ATH or even a global ! Be there at the right time of the day/week !

3) Unfortunately MA has changed the visual aspect of the skills with the bars. So it is harder to "see" than in the past.

4) Skill level (amount) only affects efficiency, not loots.

5) The biggest parts of globals and hofs are statistical compensations ! That has nothing to do with skills.

Cheerz,

Atami

[InDaHouse]

I see the loot flow this way and its proven within my SOC that i'm right. My SOC members log in and ask me what to hunt today........

Most say that decay is where MA make the peds so if you get decay in a hunt your not paying into the loot pool, but if you are using ammo/probes/bombs these are your payments to the loot pool. Loot pool builds up in a certain area AND on a certain mob and depending on the amount of ppl hunting that mob = the more loot to POSSIBLY be looted, remember loot is not guarenteed you could spend 200 ped ammo get no globals and a friend could get 3-4 globals with same ammo, this leads me to believe in a personal loot pool running alongside the area/mob loot pool.

Good examples of this would be Feffs at Fort Fury lots of ppl lots of globals and HoF's. Argo's at Twin same as above lots of ppl etc. Drones at Jasons.

Pull all 3 together at the same time and add some luck BANG nice HoF or even ATH!

My personal experiance only the other week was that I lost 700 peds in the morning hunting CP but not at the correct time of day (morning less ppl) then that night I went to some of my other spots and this is what I got Click Here then last week again I lost about 800-1k peds and this happened Click Here.

All hits are on known global mobs, in known global area's and combined with my huge ped loss I added my full loot pool.

[Count Joe]

another "meaning of life" thread..

the only skill that gave you more in "loot" was miningskills like mining and extraction... but that has change and they dont anymore

[CrouchingTiger]

Hmm my answer is going to be different to others on this one why because of my experience and answer from MA their selves.

When i started playing a lets say 4 months back prob 5 u know the usual settler armour apollo and some ammo i shot daikibis snable snots bery's all the low end mob and i remember for 3 months straight i didnt get a single global then suddenly as my skills had developed i was angry at the fact i was so skilled and was still being !!!!! by anything above a snable snot. Untill i was introduced to a soc by a very nice guy who mentored me in all those months without being my mentor because my mentor who i got to find out was a 14 year old kid who added me and went off to spain for holiday, Any ways we became good friends he showed me how to hunt what to hunt and what not untill one day i asked him how come im able to used slight better weapons now yet im still getting no where still stuck on low end mobs thats when the advise i was meant to be given came out i uped from pixie to shogun and from oppollo to a mk2 even though i wasnt skilled on it i am unpatient bastard,

i used to go on long runs and as i was confronted with an enemy i would quickly radio back to soc and they would knwo where i stood and advise me accordingly to wether to attack or not good 3 months have passed now all tp's added get tired of hunting and no globals nothing start to go mining first day of mining and i find myself a space ship by this time im experienced enough just about to take out drones gen 01 or 02 as i have shogun any way first day of mining and i get my 50ped then as soon as i empty space ship i drop a bomb sam spot 3k oil those mining days that lasted were the best lootius days of my 6 months man i was in the middle of no where and was oil galore i pumped out so much oil in that week i swear id dried the place out even uptill this day.

Then i go back to hunting with my soc mate and we go hunting drones as he gave me his ghost. One day i could just about to take out gen 01 drone and now i was taking out gen 03 i was well excited he advised me to to get vigi +6a which i did and bam i was taking on 3 gen 07 same time by this time i had used an ep40 to an extent that i was skilled more on pistol then i was on carbine so after good debate on this forum i bought korss400 man i was an elite bot hunter globals started pouring in left right centre just by my skills and right equipment o go with my skills. now i got ghost with 8a for mobs can take out old alphas no probs.

Thats one part of it and the 2nd one is that when after chipping which is being discussed in another thread my balance of skills has gone all over the place my globals have gone abit slow aswell so i got really angry of no globals and bombarded MA they advised that globals all depend on your skill and the right equipment here let me difg out the support case for you ones ec

13 Dec 2007 Entropia Support:
Hi,
We do understand your disappointment. However, the Entropia Universe is designed to be dynamic and this affects all areas, including the loot system. At some times the loot can be lower and at others higher. By killing a bigger mob with better health your chances to get better loot generally increase, but there is no guarantee. Make sure that your equipment matches your skills, since using equipment superior to your skills can cause higher costs. You may also consider asking other participants about good hunting areas and what mobs to hunt. Perhaps you should also consider trying out some of the other professions within the Entropia Universe?

As you probably understand, we cannot give you any more detailed information about the core dynamics of the Entropia Universe, but you will probably have more luck next time.

Kind regards,
Entropia Support

There
Regards
Yousef

[Joat]

I voted it's hard to say.
More value in normal loot due to better skills? Doubt it.
Better chance to better stuff in loot due to better skills? Could be.
Better bonus-hof due to better prof stand? Has been, havn't got one
at this change. Will tell you more about it later, since I changed it today
and *hopefully* I get one soon again.

BTW, I see a lot say we get more efficient when we skill up. I see it a bit
different. When we 20k in ALL skills we are 100% efficient, so I guess we
decrease our unefficiency rather than increase our efficiency when skilling up.